Fringe Episode 104 - The Arrival
By Dennis Email Post 9/30/2008 09:00:00 PM Categories: Fringe, Season 1
After a deadly explosion rocks a construction site in New York City, Broyles solicits the aid of our unlikely threesome to investigate a strange cylinder mysteriously found at the scene completely unharmed by the surrounding devastation...
What do you think of the procedural aspect of Fringe?
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how come we have not heard anything about Penros? this two week wait is BS too.
each episode just jumps to a new subject leaving a hazy connection between them all from about 20 years ago. it is the off-the-wall pilot, then the aging man, then the future painter, and now the cylinder. how come they can't weave in and out and have to stack one after the other?
because this is how they are getting the events, how they are having to place them, and how they are having to figure out how the events all connect. We don't know The Pattern, so it all looks like a jumble of random
I'm sure J.J. thought of a way to connect everything and we shall see it soon, I have faith in him. Don't you ?
Tonight's episode was awesome, much more mythology, but it somehow managed to confuse me less than the previous episodes. It also didn't follow the formula of the last two.
anybody know where i can watch this at? i missed it last night and cant seem to find it any where
Well, for my money, that was the best episode yet. Anon, you can watch Fringe on Fox.com, and we'll have it available to watch here around noon tomorrow.
It was Robert Bishop on the grave.
Not sure if that was Walter's father, as he died in 1944, but I'd have to go back and see Walter's stats.
I thought this was the best one yet. We learned a bunch of stuff about the observer. To me the story line is this...each week we find another piece to the evolving discovery of the pattern...who wants it, who is discovering it, who experimented with it, who wants to get it and so on.
walter's notes are up
Did anybody find the easter egg clue for the next episode? In last week's episode, a symbol of the cylinder was on a sign in the train station. I haven't seen any screen caps or websites episode 5.
BTW... the sign that falls off of the crane at the construction site, just before everything goes to pot - is a Massive Dynamic sign.
Lynn, we have that in the screencaps section:
http://eastereggs.fringetelevision.com/
This was the best episode so far.
Um... Whatever happened to that super-gun John Mosley was using? I think Olivia's, as well as everyone else's reaction to an powerful unknown weapon was too casual. Like... "oh he was just using your 'ol run-of-the-mill pulse/blaster/laser/kaboom super gun... oh that thing... nothing new here"
I think Olivia's thought priorities in the graveyard woulda/shoulda been:
1-locate Peter & Hostile
2-Peter is safe
3-locate Hostile & Package
4-Hostile dropped Package
5-Package is secure
6-Hostile is neutralized
7-Package is...WTF???
8-ok now... WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT GUN???
9-does Peter need medical attention?
and if this gun is in fact common to this scifi-world, then it'd be nice to know. :)
@kroof: I have no clue. Did anyone see any easter eggs hinting about the next episode?
Did anyone notice the pattern on John Mosley's hat? It can be seen quite clearly at 17:35. That pattern seems to be around every human agent of the pattern thus far.
Interestingly enough, when Peter is about to "jump ship" and is leafing through files at the lab, behind the photo of [what I assume is] a young Peter with Walter is a Birth Certificate.
The B.C. belongs to a Kyle Richard Beltran. Born October 10th, 1999. You can't see the Father's name, but the Mother's name is Amy Beltran, maiden name Steffano [I think]. The birth certificate is an issue of NY [Manahattan].
So who is this child?
Maybe I've missed a posting on this already, but what was the deal with the flashing blue alien lights? It only happened for maybe the first 20 min. or so of the episode. Still trying to piece together what it could signify or symbolize...
RE: Lynn and the Birth Certificate. Great eyes (or DVR skills!), Lynn! Some more questions about that scene: Whose box of papers was Peter picking through? I assume those were the papers Walter recovered from his car. You wouldn't think Peter would have papers because he's a nomad. The box looked rather old and beaten up. If they were Walter's papers from the car, what kind of papers was Peter taking with him and why?
Follow up to my above comment: Since Peter is a nomad, he didn't need to be digging through Walter's papers other than to show us the photo and flash us the birth certificate beneath. So, I believe the birth certificate is definitely important.
At first I thought the child in the photo might be Kyle as opposed to a young Peter, maybe even Peter's son. But if Kyle was born in 99, and I suspect the child in the photo is aged 8-9 - the photo would have to be extremely recent. Which, as we can tell from Walter's hair, it is not.
So I think the photo is likely a photo of Peter and Walter [the boy actually even looks like Peter I think...lol].
But that begs the question of why Kyle's BC was "packaged" with the photo of Walter and young Peter [in an elastic band if I recall correctly].
Things that make you go "Hmmmmm...."
I'm not posting here any more, going to find a discussion forum that gives credit when someone finds and posts something relevant.
Anonymous,
I'm not sure what it is you are referring to. Who has taken credit for something you discovered? How could you be given credit anyways if you are anonymous?
Great work, Lynn! Super kudos to You! =D
I saw your post about the birth certificate before it was an entry on the site, so it made me continue my search too.
There is a spot for a father, which makes me want to slow the tape down even more.
Interesting!
In posts referring to the binocular caps, people have mentioned how the Observer has no sense of taste and can only taste extremes which is the reason for the pepper, hot sauce and jalapenos. In addition to no taste, I think there is an issue of TOUCH.
The Observer told Walter he could not TOUCH the beacon. When Walter reveals to Peter that they were saved by the Observer when they were drowning in ice water, Walter says that it seemed the Observer was not affected by the freezing temperatures.
Also, why does the Hostile ask Peter, "When was the last time your father kissed you?"
Lastly, I couldn't help but think of two things Walter says to Peter in this episode: "Open up your mind son, or someone will open it for you!" and "Why must you be small minded...Don't act like your mother."
I think John Mosley, aka The Rogue, asks Peter those questions so he would think about his father and he could read his thoughts. Maybe he can't pull stuff directly out of your brain, you have to think it first, for him to be able to "hear" it.
Also, regarding The Observer and no sense of taste... the first thing that came to my mind was radiation. My brother had radiation treatment years ago for cancer near his mouth, and he says there are some things he still can't taste.
Radiation poisoning could also explain why he can't touch the beacon... if he's still "radioactive," maybe he would harm the beacon or cause it to malfunction if he touched it.
It might also explain his baldness and lack of eyebrows (didn't Hiroshima bomb survivors loose their hair?).
I'm sorry, I know someone else asked the same question in this thread, but no one answered so I will try again..
Did anyone notice the clue for the next episode?
I have to point again that it is very strange for the FBI not to care about that "super gun" that was used. This to me was the only hole in the episode. Maybe they will make up for it in the next episode but just a strange detail to not address.
Notice also that Peter did not tell Nina about the wierd gun the "The Observer" used on him. It looked like a regular gun but also shot some kind of knock out pulse of some kind. Again, why would he not inform the FBI of this strange technology.
Yes, I have to agree about the "super gun" -- Olivia should have went "what the hell was that?!" But, note also, that the "stun gun" that The Observer used on Peter seems to have been the same type of gun that Mosley used on Olivia's old friend (who investigated the last cylinder and whose name I can't remember).
My boyfriend just commented that the cylinder in "The Arrival" looks pretty similar to the gherkin in London, lol http://www.jimbatty.com/IMG/london/gherkin/5G128012_D.jpg
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