Fringe Episode 102 - The Same Old Story
By Dennis Email Post 9/16/2008 09:00:00 PM Categories: Fringe, Season 1
Our unlikely trio’s strange partnership begins as they investigate the mysterious death of a woman who conceives, carries to full-term and births a baby in the span of hours, and her baby who ages 80 years in a matter of minutes...
Was Episode 2 better than the Pilot?
Note: The Pilot proved to be loaded with easter eggs (hidden content). Have a look at the Fringe Episode 101 Easter Eggs for what you might have missed, and be sure keep a watchful eye out for new easter eggs in tonight's episode. If you spot one you can request a screencap here.
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Who was in that last scene? I couldn't tell. Was it John Scott?
does anyone know the song in the stripclub scene where the guy picks up the blonde? it's wicked cool.
What was the significance of Row Row Row Your Boat again?
Good work on catching pen+rose last week.!
I think Walter said that another patient at the mental institution used to sing row row row your boat every night and he become accustomed to it and found it hard to sleep without hearing it. In order to keep Walter quiet so that he could sleep, Peter started singing the song.
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row your boat was in reference to walter's friend back in the mental ward who used to sing that when he was falling asleep
yeah who was in the lat scene?
I think the three people in the last scene were clones. I'm not sure it could be Scott, however, because MD questioned him. At that point he was already five hours dead. Of course we haven't been told yet at what point it would be too late to reanimate someone.
Do you think the lady that is charge of big corporation is Agent Scott's Mother? She sure looks like she could be and she just said she gave up many things to be at the top.
Just as an aside, the 'Life is But a Dream' guy is named Carlos.
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Walter mentioned in the pilot that one could communicate via the "dream state" with a corpse within 6 hours of it's death. Of course MD might have been able to reanimate him, but this is just my opinion.
On a somewhat unrelated sidenote, does anyone besides me notice a connection between the abnormal pregnancy and the "disease," in which a person's abdomen would expand and explode (correct me if I'm wrong), that some people had in Cloverville? I may be completely off, but it's just a guess.
I'm pretty sure the 3 clones at the end were Penrose's son.
Carlos' song?
I also want to know what the song playing in the strip club was. It sounded like the Tragically Hip, but I don't think it was.
Science question: if one could recover images from an individual's optic nerve or visual cortex, would they be interpretable by anyone but the person who saw them? Would another viewer, either human or mechanical, be able to make sense of the images?
So anyway, watched it and thought it rocked. Better than the Pilot in fact. They sure squeezed a lot of show into an hour.
Edward said...
I'm pretty sure the 3 clones at the end were Penrose's son.
That was my first impression as well. I was not able to see very well at the time. But, if you factor in what Chistopher (Penrose's 'son') said about him being an experiment that "the man on the phone paid" his "father to do" then, I think it may be safe to assume that these 3 are also experiments, along with the line from Walter about 'growing soldiers' and Nina saying that MD runs private armies and... It makes some interesting gears turn in my head.
DId Walter imply that Peter was grown in a vat?
I think we have to question Peter's medical background. Walter assumed that Olivia knew about him...my opinion Walter's dream at the end has to do with Peter.
Looks like the three soldiers don't have much to do with Peter...anyway..still what is Peter's medical background?
I'm still stuck on the possible Castaneda reference.
My personal view is Peter is was a successful version of the “killer” froom last nights episode. And the three bodies, maybe there is another on out there. Did you notice when the killer died (grew old) he kept repeat something to the affect “He called me son even thought he wasn’t my father” Well I have noticed that Peter never calls Walter Dad is this because he has been estranged from him for 17 years or is it because he is not his real father. I mean the “bad” doctor in last nights episode to one of the “experiments” in as his own. Why couldn’t Dr. Bishop do the same.
Reasons why Fringe just became The Show I'll Never Watch Again:
1. Bishop's Son: "You mean 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea Jules Verne?"
No, the Blues Clues Jules Verne. YES JULES VERNE, YOU IQ-OF-190 GENIUS
2. Bishop's Son: "So, assuming we're even having this conversation..."
So much in Fringe is theoretical. Apparently, even the conversations.
3. "But...I can bring ANYTHING mechanical back from the dead."
Yessir, a 17-year-old clunker just needs a warm hug.
4. THOSE STUPID BIG LETTERS
As if we're crazy as Dr. Bishop and we need big freaking signs that scream 'THIS IS WHERE YOU ARE...YOU KNOW, SO YOU DON'T GET CONFUSED OR ANYTHING.' Yes, please, I tend to forget the mindless plot--oops, just pissed myself.
I swear, the writers must think we are IDIOTS. It's insulting, to suggest that it takes a character portrayed as a "genius" to be the one to deliver the expositionary dialogue, and post setting indicators in the scene that are the size of large buildings.
You might think I miss things, JJ Abrams, but let me tell you that when I miss this show, it'll be on purpose.
The combination to the garage where Walter Bishop kept his own car is 314159:
1) this is a prime number
2) the first six digits of π - Pi (=3.14159)
3) 314159 is a revesable prime - 951413 - is a prime number
In the beginning of Episode 2, at the meeting, when Phillip Broyles informs about a new team, Nina Sharp is wearing a gold ring with red stone on her left hand. But when Olivia picks up the electronic pulse camera at Massive Dynamics (later in the show), Nina Sharp is wearing the same ring on the right hand, and no ring on the left one:D
Three guys at the end look similarly like Christopher. They might be his clones.
When Walter said he remembered where he parked his car, I half epected him to say that it was "in Hahvahd Yahd".
The song in question is by the band The Black Angels from their album "Passover".
Looks like the three soldiers don't have much to do with Peter...anyway..still what is Peter's medical background?
>>From what I've read on TV.com website, the last scene was the dream of Walter and it was Peter unconscious on a table with the two other individuals in sealed tubes. Given the fact that both Penrose and Walter knew about the experiments, it might be safe to say that both scientist kept one for themselves and raised them as their sons. If that's true then it makes you wonder if Peter finished his 'pituitary gland treatments'
Did I not just say pretty much the same thing 2 days ago
yeah, as previously mentioned, the song was from The Black Angels. great album! if you like that, you should also check out the band Clinic. similar qualities.
alternapop.com
funkbomb named some of the things that bug me. But the two biggest I have a hard time getting around:
1. Harvard just has all this space sitting around? They didn't need it for 17 years? they just let it sit? huh?
2. Our mad genius has been locked up for 17 years, but he remembers everything in his research? And somehow he learned all about PCs in the meantime, DNA sequencing, and other high tech machines?
They are relying too much on forensics and high tech to be believable in this show.
But I'll keep watching for a while...
the stripper scene song is called Starstruck by lady gaga
Earthing: What was that song?? What was that operatic song that Walter Bishop was loudly playing in his lab? Olivia walked in and said “how long has he been like this?” or something to that effect.
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