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'Bloodline' Teases, Plus EPs Jeff Pinkner and J.H. Wyman Talk Peter's Choice and the Other Universe

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FRINGE: ‘Bloodline’ Teases, Plus EPs Jeff Pinkner and J.H. Wyman Talk Peter’s Choice and the Other Universe
March 25, 2011 by Marisa Roffman

FRINGE fans, tonight’s hour is a big one.

Originally, I had planned on answering some fan questions about the episode, but as I watched what went down, I quickly realized there was no way to do that without potentially spoiling too much. And you know what? I don’t want to spoil you guys. This show is too darn good to have the twists and turns — and there are quite a few — spoiled.

However, I am willing to tease a few things about “Bloodline”…

- Tonight’s hour is set solely “over there.”

- Last month, FRINGE executive producer J.H. Wyman teased, “An insight about this is that this isn’t going to be a normal pregnancy [for Fauxlivia] that you see, either. And the pregnancy is [going to evolve] in a FRINGE way that you don’t comprehend yet. It’s not going to be your traditional love triangle, ‘I’m pregnant and having a baby’ story. It’s going to be FRINGE-ified.” Fans will learn a lot more about what he meant in “Bloodline.”

- If you don’t love Lincoln after tonight’s episode…well, I’m not even sure what to say to you.

- Two characters are in legitimate life-or-death danger.

Okay, so those were semi-vague teases. But trust me, you don’t want this hour spoiled. The good news? We’ll be able to discuss “Bloodline” the moment the episode finishes on the east coast, so make sure to check back with Give Me My Remote at 10:01 PM so we can talk about what went down.

The better news? I have some more of my interview with FRINGE executive producers Jeff Pinkner and J.H. Wyman that seemed rather appropriate to post now, given yesterday’s season four pickup (yay!) and tonight’s new episode…

Are you aware some viewers seem to be almost jealous of the time and attention paid to the characters over there?J.H. Wyman: That’s okay. One thing we do want people to know is we do plan way in advance. Jeff and I both have the same work ethic as far as [feeling] you can only be great if you know where you’re going. You can’t try for the best show if you don’t know what you’re doing and you’re kind of pulling things out of the hat at the last minute, because there’s no rhyme or reason to that. And the audience, I think, kind of feels from us right now that they’re being guided with a very confident, narrative hand, guiding them on their back saying, “This is where we’re going.”

We just want them to realize if you look back at season one when there was amber on a bus [in "The Ghost Network"] and our team as part of the pattern, didn’t really know what the amber was, now you realize what amber is, if you look at that in retrospect, you’re like, “Oh my gosh. Oh, I see. This whole thing has a novel-like quality and these guys are going from here to there to take us through this journey.” This is sort of another aspect of that. So in retrospect, when you look back at this, you’ll say, “Oh, I get it.”

But we’re happy that people are engaged. We don’t want them to be sad because we want people to love their show and love what they’re watching and be invested in it. We just want them to say, “Okay, I trust these guys, i know they won’t let us down and it’s going to be really interesting and I’m compelled as I’m going through this.”

Right. I will say that I feel like FRINGE is one of the very few shows that I absolutely feel like things are intentionally being laid out to be paid off at a later date. Things are being played out now in a major way that were set up in the first two seasons, which is rare.
More to come. And our whole structure of seasons, plus what we try and do with the last three episodes of each season, [is that] we try and give you the impression that you’re turning the last page of a chapter in a novel. And usually in a good novel, the last pages [of a chapter] compels you forward with a new understanding of what the subject matter is and you get deeper and you can’t wait to turn that page. So our year-ends, for us, are a little bit worrisome sometimes in the beginning of the year, because they have to be impactful enough that people are like, “Wow, that was even better than last year!” But it also has to invite our audience to realize, “Oh my gosh, I can imagine where these guys are going to take things next year and it’s going to blow my mind and I can’t wait to see it.”

We’re always plotting as carefully as we can. As I said in the beginning, that’s our style and that’s the only way I think we know how to work. I’ve read about people that write as they go and I hold them in high esteem because I could never do that and I know Jeff can’t do that. That would be daunting for us.

Jeff Pinkner: We have enough anxiety to tell as good a story as we can every week and some weeks we succeed and some weeks we fall a little bit short of our expectations, but we know where we’re going and that’s our comfort.

You mentioned these huge finales that FRINGE is known for. Are you feeling any pressure for how to end this season in order to top what you’ve done in the past?
We’re not feeling so much pressure at this point because we know what it is and we think it will work in all those ways. The season will really feel like it told an arc this year. It will really feel like season three was about something, like season two felt like it was about something. And it will indicate what season four is going to be in hopefully a way people will be really excited about.

Can you share a little bit of what you feel FRINGE season three is?
It started with Olivia trapped in the other universe and Bolivia over here and it will largely play out the consequences of that in every way: through Peter and Olivia’s relationship, through Peter and Fauxlivia’s relationship, the doomsday device and what Walternate is up to, Walter trying to deal with that. Bell sacrificing himself at the end of season two and Walter for a moment had his friend and partner back and has now lost him and how he is doubting if he can do it on his own. We’ve seen evidence and instances of Walter being concerned that he’s not smart enough. All of these things will feel like thematically and narratively will come to — some of them will come to a conclusion and others of them won’t because there is no conclusion. But the whole season functions on those axis.

JW: Season one was designed to put them together. Fringe elements and asking questions on an objective level with characters going to something. And season two is more about asking larger questions from a subjective point of view and being involved in it and having Peter be in the center of it and starting to figure out who they are and ask questions about what they all mean to this larger story. In season three, it was all about self-actualization where each character was starting to come to terms with who they are and what their responsibilities are and still seeking out more answers.

So season three is still about asking questions, but it’s also about getting answers and being responsible for being more reactive and aggressively searching for answers. And season four will be altogether different because the end of the season will definitely point you in a direction that I haven’t heard anybody on any website [give] a hypothetical to come even close where we even are. We like that just fine.

Is there any reason fans should think Peter would willingly choose the other universe over ours, aside from Walternate, Fauxlivia and her pregnancy?
Well his mom is still there. His only emotional attachments are to his future child and his mother.

JW: And that’s only on the surface level. As an existential crisis, he’s never really fit in anywhere. And circumstances may change here — or they may not — but they may change here and have him asking questions like “where do I belong?”

JP: And the truth is he belongs over there. Or he’s from there at least.

JW: That’s what I mean. His home, he was taken from over there. So naturally, with fate and destiny, that’s where he’s needed. That’s where he’s supposed to be. But he’s missing. He’s going to be in crisis for a little bit as he tries to figure out where he fits in, really, in all of this.

So given your answer, should fans have hope for our side?
Of course.

JP: But fans should also be fearful for our side.

Will there only be one universe by the end of the season?
The story that we’re telling isn’t going to — we hope — our intention is that our story will go well beyond season three. We’re not going to talk about the ending yet.

So the finale will serve only as a season finale and in no way could be seen as a series finale?
JP: We are not planning a series finale.

JW: Yeah, it’s not a series finale. We’ve been instructed not to do a series finale.

- Good thing Fox came through with that order for season four, right?


Anonymous said...

Fearful for our side ?

OK , in season 2 finale :
Over there :-

Olivia : Peter you don't belong here

Peter : No i don't belong here and i don't belong there either

Olivia : Yes you do ...... etc you have to come back because you belong with me .

So Peter is back because of Olivia , and his mother was and still there , but Peter did make his choice .

Now , for the child .... so many people are in divorce and left their child behind , so why this will be a big deal ? don't get me wrong but I think Peter did his choice and to question where he is belong now .. it .. it has no meaning .. only ... IF Olivia will make the choice and free Peter from her lab ! it will make sense .

But Peter's character did prove that he is moody sometime yes sometime no , no one can deny the fact that he is from over there as no one can deny that he is over here because of Walter at first and Olivia next . So if Olivia will free Peter .. he will accept his fate and destiny to be over there so our world will destroy ? I don't think that Olivia can let that to happen .

I hate the baby thingi ! but it's done and it's happening .... what if Peter will go over there just to make Olivia delivery her baby too ? in this case Peter will have 2 babies .. which one will he choose ?

See , it's not the baby or the mother or even the lover .. it's the choices .


Anonymous said...

my thing is they talke about the divice and maney thing,s but the last 2 episode,s are called the last sam wiss and the day we died even if the day we died was one of the unver,s why have a sam wiss episode right before the season ending they said the last 3-4 episode,s relate but i just dount see how yet espshely whey the season ending is not a 2hour thing. the seson finley shulde be epic but how would they fit all the informashone in a 45mint-1hour show? but it will be great like the rest i just hope this show dosent have maney paralis with LOST beacuse we need difrent thems, not the same otherwise we allredey know how it will end in year,s to come ps to the producer,s in bloodline the obsver talking at the end saying it is haping was epic because it could mean maney thing,s also i would be cool if you guy,s did a obsver episode again

Jenny said...

Somehow I think the Olivias will actually need to team up to save Peter or the baby. If Olivia loves Peter, she will do anything for him - even if it means working with Fauxlivia.

Anonymous said...

I really liked "BLOODLINE" up to the end. Then disappointment as always, my best friend. I thought sure this was tied into the third universe (The Yellow One hinted at) Hated that Walternate was behind it. We still don't know his motives. Was it to save the baby from dying? Or Olivia? Both? Or is it some diabolical unknown as yet to be revealed plan?
Four episodes left and I really want to see what the third universe is about, after all I saw 'yellow' all over this episode so it has to be leading up to some BIG reveal! Right?


Anonymous said...

From this interview with Pinkner and Wyman, they do read fan posts, and they say that no one is even close to hypothesizing correctly the outcome of the season. Blawst it! That, of course, doesn't mean we won't give it our best shot. The writers will continue to speed us through dark tunnels, and whip us around blindside curves. We the fans are only passengers on their journey.

Anonymous said...

What I see setting up is a new cast ( Emily Meade) for next year or additional cast including a 14 year old Walter. I think next year instead of alternating back and forth between 2 universe's we are going to time travel back and forth before the time we died (our universe) this season.

Our universe is destroyed at the end of this season which is becoming more obvious. I imagine everyone in our universe will be killed or something not of this world. Then in the last 5 minutes of the finale you will see the new 14 year old character of Walter (casting call). I am speculating next year we will start the season back in time. This way there will be a fresh start for anyone new to the series as well as answer many unanswered questions for the folks who have been around for 3 years. Something never seen on tv before.

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