I hate how the Kitchen Nightmares portion takes so much more time than the Fringe segment of the commercial.
Seriously, I don't know if the producers realise they already killed the show for many fans. But I'm pretty sure about one thing : they don't care. It's even sad for a lot of Fringe fans to see Peter and Olivia getting together now, all was subtil in the two first seasons, now it's getting so heavy, (the show might be sponsored by Mannix or Durex) Bolivia is like aids spreading in both universes, and its baby is like a silent growing tumor, and Peter will learn he has been infected too late. I don't want Peter and Olivia to get together ever, giving what happened. How can I keep watching a show that suggests so many negative feelings, and on top of that I think the producers have no respect for a big part of their fans, who bought the 2 first seasons, what's that shi..., how did they chose such a stupid and unbelievable storyline, nobody noticed it wasn't Olivia ! a no brained-whory copy of Olivia unable de manage with her birth control method, and for what reason Bolivia would want to keep that baby ? and how could Peter even think about chosing Holivia, there is nothing logical in this storyline, it seems that the whole season 3 was built up from the sick idea that Bolivia must get pregnant, and all of what is happening around that seems so facticious. I hope the producers will read this and know some Fringe fans have a deep feeling of being treated like morons, I also think they did this massacre, just because they wanted to be the first in Sci-fi show to create the situation of a man in love with two versions of the same person, it is a very selfish and pretentious choice, who doesn't consider the fans who really loved this show. It's funny but I feel like the producers sacrified this show, just to do some experiments, to know how far they can go in not respecting their audience.It's too bad the producers don't give any answers to their grieving fans, they have a responsablity here, why did they ruin that show ?
I really think anonymous for someone to write that much you must care about the show and still b interested. Fringe is a great show if you dont like it don't watch or spend time on the site posting negative comments. Best show since xfiles!
Anyone is free to have an opinion, whatever that opinion could be considered as positive or negative, that's what makes these posts interesting.
Anon,You will have your chance to ask Jeff Pinkner and J.H. Wyman questions tonight via tiwtter. They are the executive producers (i.e. head writers).See: http://www.fringetelevision.com/2011/02/tweet-along-with-fringe-executive.html
To Anon who poured her heart out above:I hear you. I do!When Faux slept with Peter I was enraged.When I posted the spoiler that she was pregnant by Peter, I was more enraged.I love the P/O dynamic in the first 2 seasons.I even embraced what happened in 'The Box' as fitting to the overall plot.What I'm mad about is that they cheapened the character of Alt-Olivia(in my opinion) by choosing the direction they did. IF they make her do something to redeem herself, I'll be able to accept that. Otherwise, they've made me hate that character and I didn't want to.I DO hear you. I would recommend you hang in there. Re-watch the last scene of '6B' many more times, and tell yourself regardless of what junk happens next, that twosome will somehow survive. I personally think that's the future message Pinkner & Wyman have for the P/O fans.Also, there's a lot of happy P/O fanfiction in the Fringe fandom at fanfiction.net tha can comfort you. :) P/O shippers:PLEASE don't give up on this show!And hey! This may sound silly but Fringe is so much more than the P/O dynamic. I LOVE the mythology and all the alts except Faux. I want to know how everything turns out. I think the Observers have some big surprises ahead!Everyone stay tuned!
To Fringeobsessed, thank you so much, because you seem to understand how big is my deception,it's as big as my love for this show before season 3. I will keep an eye on Fringe, but what happened and the choice of creating a bad Olivia is really not very clever, imagine if Bolivia was a great person, with other but as good qualities as our Olivia, it would have been so much more interesting, instead of creating a wombivia ! it seems to me that the writers created this situation just to delay and complicate the relashionship between Peter and Olivia, but common there are so many other good ideas to follow up the story in a sci-fi way, instead of this unbelievable clumsy-soapy storyline. I have lost all trust in what the writers can create, because their lack of imagination and short cut way of treating the relashioships in season 3 is woesome to me. In a way the damage is done. But still I thank you again, enjoy the show, cheers.
I guess I'm the only fanboy who loves 'over there' Olivia and her red hair. 'Over here' Olivia is a boring dull blonde. I am enraged that you peopler so enraged. I'll watch to the bitter end. Oh, and don't rule out a 3rd. Olivia and a 2nd. Peter from the 3rd. universe! Think yellow.Matthew from the Fringe
To last Anon, sure that what is relevant this year for new Fringe fans, Bolivia has red air, so interesting, I'm sure you like this season. Hey by the way it's a wig !
Hey so what? It's a character. Are U this serious about all TV series and movies/ Also, I've watched every episode of all 3 seasons so far. Of course it's not relevant, neither is the other spew being posted here. What are U the Fringe protector? Get over yourself.Matthew from the Fringe
Excuse me Matthew for my previous post, it's just that I am so so desapointed, and I admit to be too passionate about what was my favourite show. For me it's like there is no season 3, would you be happy to feel like Fringe ended after season 2 ? But as you said it's just a TV show, and I'm glad you enjoy it, you are very lucky. Of course I'm not the Fringe protector, I'm just trying to share and express what I feel, and I don't think I'm the only one desapointed about the way Bolivia's caracter is cheapened.
It's human nature to react strongly while observing messy romantic entanglements, no matter if they're scripted or real life. There's always a villian we hate, a victim we feel sorry for and a hero we root for in love triangles. The writers are apparently doing their jobs well in stirring up the ashes. Damn them. Bless them.
Yes but sadly, when there are only ashes left, what do we do ? I'm not passionate about romantic entanglements, for me Fringe wasn't about that, this love triangle is treated as the main event, it will be decisive for saving our univers or not ! lol. I would like to see more interesting plots, our universes are supposed to be at war, when do we see that? and this improbable couple Peter and Olvia, becoming so boring, why don't they give up on each other definitley. The main caracter of the show is now disguised as a typical cliched weak female. Not mentioning Bolivia, clever as an incubator. No really I don't recognize that show.
I love this, everytime a female falls in love, gets a boyfriend all people do is insult her by calling her "weak" as if she isn't suppose to have a heart that goes along with kicking ass. But whatever.
BTW, since when is it so freaking wrong for a strong woman to have a boyfriend? Why is it such a big deal for Olivia to show any EMOTION for another human being or do you expect her to be a robot with no feelings whose job is to save the world and not give a crap about anybody else? Sorry, but grow up, even the strongest women need somebody to love her back.
I also can't believe people are honestly criticizing Olivia for being "weak" after everything that has happened to her. She was kidnapped, tortured, almost killed, has to find out AltOlivia took her boyfriend, took her life away from her and you honestly expect her to be all strong? I love this hypocrisy. Nobody criticized Walter for his little "drama queen" moments but Olivia shows her emotional side and she is "weak".
Katie- U GO GIRL! Love strong women and I would never say 'over here' Olivia is 'weak' but she has been closed off, boring and has never had a friend or group of friends (Charlie came the closest but no close girlfriend not even her sister!) 'Over there' Olivia is everything OH Olivia should be.Anonymous- Sorry you feel this way. It's far from over and I do get upset with what I see as the direction (or misdirection) the the series is taking. Besides what I see on screen the only thing I have to go on is what Pinkner and Wyman tell us and I am still encouraged to stand my ground. All is not what it seems. Matthew from the Fringe
All this love for Fauxolivia I still can't get over her killing the deaf man over the box. I know our Olivia has killed in her line of work she still would have let him go I think she has great friends in Lincoln and Charlie which seems she is more fun but we have to cut our Olive some slack with what she has been through
Yes to summerize, it's hard to keep interest when so much power is given to such a not intresting caracter like Bolvia. I think that Lincoln and Charlie who like this "smiling" face have no idea of what she is capable of, and woudn't keep so much interest for her if they knew how she behaved, and how whory she is.
If a story were told by the audience rather than the storyteller then we would lack imaginative stories all together. The beauty of a story is that is lets us into another's imagination and expands our own to think of things that we have never thought of before. In my opinion, the story of Fringe is fascinating.And I hope the writers never start letting the audience write it for them. I doubt the writers are trying to infuriate the audience as much as the are allowing the story to unfold and take them wherever it leads.
What happened to John the boyfriend in a box at massive dynamic????
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