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'Fringe' stars talk past, present & future

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'Fringe' stars talk past, present & future
May 18, 2011 ι Jarett Wieselman

Last night Anna Torv & John Noble were honored by The Paley Center for Media as the organization presented An Evening with "Fringe" -- where the stars talked to a rapt room full of actors and show devotees about their experiences on Fox's sci-fi phenomenon.

But before they took the stage, Anna & John exclusively talked to PopWrap about the season three finale, what they think it means for their characters and where they hope things go in season four!

PopWrap: Congratulations on a truly incredible season finale -- what did you think of it?


John Noble: I loved it. The script was evolving as we were doing it too – in particular, the ending with Peter evaporating. That was kind of a light thought that came in at one point and just made everyone say, “whoa.” But scripts often evolve like that, especially as they built the trilogy of episodes at the end of this season. So many things were happening, it was kind of mind boggling and very exciting, but kind of insane.

PW: Do you understand what happened?
Anna Torv:
I do, but I’m not quite sure where it’s going.
John: At a psychological level, I absolutely understand it. For Walter/Walternate, I see them as the same man, so psychologically, I do understand. In dreams this happens, in other mental states this happens. So it doesn’t concern me that we do a literal representation that’s in another mind dimension, we all have those things.

PW: What excites you about the potential this universe bridge opens up for season four?
Anna: So much! I don’t know for sure, we haven't talked to the showrunners yet, but I would think this obviously means her baby doesn’t exist. I'm also curious to the concept of, "How much pain has Peter caused Olivia over the last three seasons?" Now, who is she without ever having experienced that? What kind of shifts will the characters make without Peter in our lives? But simultaneously how are we going to find him?

PW: I would imagine it also means you'll be playing both versions of your characters a lot more next year.
John:
I think so too, and that is such a gift as an actor.
Anna: I love it. I’m also excited because we seen a lot of interaction between the characters, which we will now that they’re in the same world. Also, with Lincoln too! I know Seth [Gabel] is coming back!
John: Oh, he's so great!
Anna: It’ll be fun to see him on both sides as well.

PW: That could get messy for Fauxlivia!
John:
Well she hasn’t committed to him yet!
Anna: That’s true! Maybe Olivia will get her back and date Lincoln! She needs some love too [laughs].

PW: Tonight is all about the actorly part of "Fringe" and obviously these dual performances are an excellent example of that. How have you approached it?
John:
I’ve always seen these characters as the psychological parts of the same man. It’s that melding together – now the pressure is on enough that they have to stop compromising and come together. Because, and this is my personal opinion, but to survive this situation, this man needs to be his very best and that’s a combination of Walter and Walternate. That’s the approach I’m taking to it and it seems to be working. But we'll know for sure on Thursday, when we talk to the showrunners about season four.

PW: Oh man, you know that fans are going to be stalking your life on Friday now!
Anna: [laughs]
John: They’ll tell us just enough to keep us tantalized – that’s what they do.

PW: What are you hoping to talk about?
Anna:
In that last speech where Peter talked about who brought the parts back – Astrid or Ella – I’m interested in that. I wonder if we’ll do more back and forth with the future.
John: I’m excited to continue with the different universes, I like that they’re going to work together. That’s always something we’ve wanted to do – not show a black and white world. This way you don’t automatically choose one side. We work really hard to humanize both sides.

PW: Back to the alternates, do you prefer playing one more than the other?
John:
I do. I enjoy Walter more because he’s so random. And as an actor, that means I can do whatever I want and get away with it, whereas Walternate is so stitched up. Walter is a lot more fun.
Anna: It changes, I vacillate. When Faux-livia first came about I was thrilled not to be in the suit, but then I played Olivia Over There and I loved her during that period. It changes.

PW: Favorite episode this season?
John:
I loved the one with Christopher Lloyd. It was such a joy to work with him and he was so good in the role.
Anna: I actually think “Entrada” – I enjoyed that because I had so much fun stuff to do,. You’re always biased towards things like that. It was my favorite episode to make, I don’t know how it would be watching it.

PW: And lastly, this show has really lived and died by the fans -- a very fickle community, it should be said. What kinds of comments have you been hearing from fans?
Anna:
One of the things I love about doing the show is that anyone who stops me on the street, always asks “what’s happening next?” To be a part of something that’s bigger than you is fun because it means that the show you're making is the star.
John: That’s true. When people stop me on the street, it’s so generous and then “what do you know?” [laughs]. We have incredible fans.

"Fringe" airs Fridays at 9pm on Fox -- and for more information on The Paley Center for Media, click here!



26 Comments:

Anonymous said...

Ok (& sorry if this stirs the pot a bit) BUT... When i statred watching Fringe it was the whole fantasy/science fiction bit that lured me. Then, without realising it was the main trio's relationship and ofcourse I was quickly converted into a P&O shipper, so... with the final being so wtf, is there any further news that Joshua Jackson will be back full-time or will he just be guest starring through out the season??

Anonymous said...

The producers say Joshua Jackson will be back, but they don't know in what capacity. They still have to figure out his role. I guess that means Peter is gone for good.

Torv thinks Peter has been causing Olivia pain for 3 years? I didn't know Peter was such an abusive jerk. Does that mean Olivia is a masochist and that's why she fell in love with him?

FringeFrogee said...

Anna: "...Maybe Olivia will get her back and date Lincoln!"

You said Anna, my thoughts exactly!

FringeFrogee said...

Torv thinks Peter has been causing Olivia pain for 3 years? I didn't know Peter was such an abusive jerk. Does that mean Olivia is a masochist and that's why she fell in love with him?

Anonymous I think what she is referring to is Olivia has done a lot of growing because of all the things she's been through with Peter, good and bad. That the hurt she had to go through over FauxOlivia/Peter etc has been pretty defining of where her character ended up. She became stronger and recognised her strength and her needs, became a better, more open (less emotionally stunted) because of it. Had she not gone through the bad bits she would have had a lot of difficulty fighting for what she really wanted - Peter. Otherwise she may well have still been sitting on the sidelines, wishful thinking.

Anonymous said...

That the hurt she had to go through over FauxOlivia/Peter etc has been pretty defining of where her character ended up.

How did that stretch through 3 seasons? She's very clear about it. Peter has been causing Olivia pain for 3 seasons. Nothing positive to say about about him.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's positive that she's lobbying for that relationship to end, so that Olivia can move on with Lincoln. Olivia never sold me on her wish for a romance with Peter anyway. The only reason I can imagine for her to say such a weird thing about him is to sell a relationship between Olivia and Lincoln, but it's still unfair to Peter.

fringeobsessed said...

No worries, folks. Joel Wyman has mentioned at least once that he prefers our Liv with Peter.
He knows that people are vested in that relationship.

If you read the book "Winter's Tale" by Mark Helprin that young Olivia was reading in "Subject 13," you'll get sense of where Peter's heading.

I have every confidence that in the end Peter & Olivia will be together. That look they share at the end of the pilot and Wyman's words assure me.

Wikiaddicted723 said...

Fringeobssessed, thank you, my thoughts exactly.

They need to keep them apart for a while to give the characters more room to grow and to observe possibilities from another point of view. If their relationship where to stay as it was (i.e. before the finale) there would be little direction to go in pertaining their love lives and feelings for each other. The relationship they show us in those episodes (and all the show most likely) is a relationship so stable and mature that little would change it's course, we all saw them married in that future, and we all saw the extents their prepared to go for each other. Olivia crossed Universes for Peter, Peter changed the Time - space continuum for Olivia (IMO). Let's not forget that they've got enough material for 8 seasons and are content with 5, so God help us, there's still a couple of years of awesomeness to look forward to.

Anonymous said...

Right on, Wikiaddicted! They already showed everything they could about the couple, married and all, and that's why that relationship is over. Anna will get her wish to have her character get another lover and Josh's new character could get a different love interest, too. They can't grow as characters if they are in stable relationships. Hooking them up with different people makes for more interesting TV. I will be happy with this scenario, as long as they don't pair up Peter and Olivia again.

Anonymous said...

Anna torv is a Peter/Josh hater, simple as that.

Wikiaddicted723 said...

Well, Anon above, I'm actually a Polivia shipper, and I believe they'll be together later on ( I hope so) as they do belong toghether, they might just go their separate ways for a while and meet in middle somewhere. Joel Wyman said they belonged together and I'm gonna trust him. You are obviously entitled to your opinion, so I'll agree to disagree on them actually LOVING other people the way they've come to love each other.

go P/O!!!

FringeFrogee said...

Hardly think Anna's a Peter hater, and to say she hates Josh is just jumping to wild conclusions.


There is a lot invested in that relationship and in Peter's character, the writers/producers are not going to throw that away. Joel and co are all about exploring the what ifs of every part of their story.

Anna could be giving us some ideas of what's coming, her thoughts of what she might need for a direction of developing her character sans Peter's influence, total misdirection etc etc.

The reference to three seasons could have been as simple as slip of the tongue, or maybe there were things going on in the storyline that those involved have discussed or maybe got cut from what aired, that we haven't picked up on.

wikiaddicted723 said...

"Anna torv is a Peter/Josh hater, simple as that."


Not at all. She's simply a Person with a concrete opinion about the show she works on. We're all entitled to our own opinions, no matter who agrees or disagrees. She was asked a question and she answered it in the best of her capacity. If that is your opinion, know that it is not my intention to offend you in any way Anon Above.

Anonymous said...

"Anna torv is a Peter/Josh hater, simple as that."

That's her loss. Josh is still under contract and, unless she is allowed to have certain demands, like having no scenes with him, she will have to work with him.

Anonymous said...

I know this is side stepping all of the above even though i'm the first anon..... BUT i just got back from watching Source Code and all the way through it i was thinking this is SOOO Fringe. Even the ending made me think 'oh THAT'S what happened to Peter'... so if u need a bit of a Fringy kind of fix go check it out.

Anonymous said...

Yet another anonymous to post (not affiliated with any of the previous)...

There is absolutely no evidence that Anna is a Peter/Josh hater (the actors, from what I've seen in interviews and read articles about they seem to be very friendly with another and get along just fine). As Wikiaddicted723 said originally, the story needs to evolve so it can continue to grow. J.H. Wyman has said on his twitter that they do believe Peter and Olivia belong together and in interviews has said that the show runners are taking a "long view" which means that "happily ever after" won't happen immediately.

From the articles I've read, each of the actors/actresses has had different viewpoints on the romance, but they all seem to want to get Fringe back to focusing on the sci-fi part more than the romance story, which was one of the main plot lines during season 3. The show runners have said in past interviews that Fringe is a story about a family (Walter, Peter and Olivia) that uses sci-fi as its setting. The next season will take the show in a different direction, but the show runners said to trust them which to me means that eventually everything will work itself out in the end. Ultimately, in addition to telling a story, they recognize that Fringe is a business and they don't want to drive away their core audience by eliminating the relationships that the audience has already become invested in. I also trust they arent' going to Fringe into some type of sci-fi version of Grey's Anatomy (where characters bounce from one love interest to the next).

With regards to Peter causing Olivia pain, there is no evidence that he ever abused her. I think what Anna meant was that when Peter and Walter entered her life, pain came along with it because of the personal strain the nature of the cases put on her. Most of the cases they've worked on so far are almost directly connected to Walter, and through him to Peter. If Walter and Peter never entered the picture, Olivia would most likely in some ways be happier because she would never have been experimented on and conditioned as a child and the love-triangle would never have happened (which, was mostly Peter's fault for not seeing it sooner). She might even have ended up being similar to Fauxlivia in her disposition. However, it is important to remember that without Walter and Peter, she would have lost all of relationships and connections she has built with them over the past three years, which is the basis of Fringe and without that there would be no show.

As a general observation, anyone posting to a message board is posting their own opinion (just as I am here). To the anonymous above who wrote that "Anna torv is a Peter/Josh hater, simple as that," this is a declarative statement without any supporting evidence. If this is what you feel, that's fine, however you should preface it with the words "I think..." so as to identify it as your opinion. Anyone can read these posts and if they are not informed about the show, they may have taken that statement to be fact. A little bit of research (i.e. Google) prior to posting never hurts either as it could provide supporting evidence for your position, or may change your original line of thought completely.

Anonymous said...

Anna Torv should see a little series that stars herself, saying that Peter has made to suffer for three seasons Olivia is being very far from the truth. Olivia suffered by Peter in four and a half chapters of this third season: Marionette, Firefly, Reciprocity, Concentrate and Ask Again and 6B there is reconciliation. That is, even half a season.
Anna must remember that in the first season suffered by John Scott Olivia and towards the end began to torment the experiments she did with Walter, torment he suffered during the second season. During that time Peter was a friend who unconditionally supported, moreover, when Olivia realized the truth of Peter did not tell him, was not entirely on his side, more on the side of Walter.
If not re-unite Fringe Peter and Olivia, but it looks like Anna Torv did not like at all the couples and so these claims erróneas.Tenemos to wait for the creators plan to me in particular, I would not only Joshua who is in the fourth season, I love that we give back to our Peter, because more than the romantic relationship she had with Olivia, I loved the relationship between father and son, Walter-Peter relationship is one of the most attractive elements of this series.

Anonymous said...

Anna Torv should see a little series that stars herself, saying that Peter has made to suffer for three seasons Olivia is being very far from the truth. Olivia suffered by Peter in four and a half chapters of this third season: Marionette, Firefly, Reciprocity, Concentrate and Ask Again and 6B there is reconciliation. That is, even half a season.
Anna must remember that in the first season suffered by John Scott Olivia and towards the end began to torment the experiments she did with Walter, torment he suffered during the second season. During that time Peter was a friend who unconditionally supported, moreover, when Olivia realized the truth of Peter did not tell him, was not entirely on his side, more on the side of Walter.
If not re-unite Fringe Peter and Olivia, but it looks like Anna Torv did not like at all the couples and so these claims erróneas.we Have to wait that developers plan to me in particular, not only me Joshua would like to be in the fourth season, I love that we give back to our Peter, because more than the romantic relationship she had with Olivia, I loved the relationship between father and son, Walter-Peter relationship is one of the most attractive this series.

Anonymous said...

As a huge fringe fan I also hope that in the end Peter and Olivia will be together!!! I just trust writers and producers when they say that Olivia and Peter belong together and that the connection of the three is very important to the storyline. I hope that waht happend to Peter in 3x22 is just another big obstacle between the two and it is something what could make this lovestory even more amazing because it could be so exciting to see how they are finding their ways to each other again and finally falling in love with eachother again! In my opinion the story of Peter and Olivia created from the Pilot till the last scene of 3x21 was brilliant! And I don´t think that this story isn´t significant to the Fringe mythology - Peter was only able to sacrifice himself because he knew he could save Olivia she could be alive and finally he was able to create a bridge between the two universes because he saw she was alive!So I don´t think we can simply forget abot it now! It is only my opinion and we will see in season 4 what is really in store for Olivia and Peter!:)
According to what our brilliant actors Anna and Josh said in their recent intervievs about P/O relationship I use Peter words to Olivia from the beginning of episode 6B to express what most fans are thinking of it: We spent so long time imagineing how it could be to see Olivia and Peter in Fringe beeing together, loving each other, shareing a kiss .....And finally we had THIS! We saw what the two of you together looks like and it was BEAUTIFUL! So we hold on to you every week! And now who´s the one stopping us from watching your wonderful moments on screen in Fringe!?:)

Anonymous said...

I agree with the last anon comment-- the P/O relationship began in the pilot from the very first time they saw each other. I'm very curious to see how they will bring Peter back. I, too, think that they will somehow have to find each other again because their love transcends time, space, and universes! And as for Torv's comment about the way Peter has hurt her for 3 seasons: it may have to do with the fact that Peter briefly dated her sister. She certainly didn't take that well!

-AM

Anonymous said...

Now I understand why Olivia always looked more awkward and uncomfortable than in love with Peter. When someone’s feelings seep so much into their acting, no amount of good writing can save a scene. A good out of this Polivia mess is giving Anna Torv, what she wants. She likes Seth Gabel and she wants love scenes with him. There is no reason to deny her her wish.

Anonymous said...

Producers do not think Olivia is going to roll with Linconl simply a whim to follow an actor, must be aware that this decision can destroy what has taken three years, and I refers to the relationship Peter, Olivia, I talking about Fringe, a series with an interesting plot that can not deviate from that way so unconvincing.
It would be sad that this is true, and for that reason is that determined disappear Peter, again, hubise been more worthy than kill the character, with a funeral and their loved ones remembered, at least Walter and Astrid, because apparently Both love Olivia was not true.
If the speculations are true, I doubt that Fringe get to chapter 22 in the fourth season, because to follow the whims of an actress, will plummet audiences and thus the show could be canceled.

Anonymous said...

Am, what are you talking about? Peter and Rachel NEVER dated and NOT ONCE did we see Olivia whine about them dating. Go watch the show again.

reeqw said...

You know, why does romances wind up RUINING characters? All people do is bash peter because of that blonde mess of a woman. I hate Olivia.

Fringlelovergirl said...

I'm just wondering...if peter never existed...there wouldn't have been the drive needed for walter to cross over in the first place. right?

Anonymous said...

Excuse me, Anon. I have watched the show, and maybe P and R didn't officially "date" but it was certainly implied. And Olivia was clearly uncomfortable with the fact that P called R just to "chat". Excuse me for expressing an opinion. You didn't need to get nasty.

AM

allsjennifer said...

OMG! For ALL of you who first of all think that Anna doesn't like or can't stand Josh, obviously doesn't watch their interviews together. Anna has described Josh as having old school charm & charisma, she could also be very nervous around him for other reasons! If you didn't watch the Comic Con 2011, watch where he comes in & they both look each other straight in the eyes & if I have to spell that out for you then I really am sorry that you have been deprived in your life as never having instant attraction with someone therefore every time you are in the same room you can't help but feel it. Also, she goes on to quote him an awful lot for her to "not like him." And IF you have watched every show from the very beginning you would see that they had instant "togetherness" since they first meant when they were kids & he was the only one that knew where to find her & the one that convinces her to tell Walter about her stepdad & the only one that has helped her be able to do all the things she didnt think she could & she could only do them when he was with her. Then they had an instant connection when she went to Iraq to bring him back & when she went to Germany she decided not to take it any further with her old boyfriend when Peter called her.This show is way to awesome & the writers are way to smart NOT to have these two be together. OH and about him dating her sister, that never happened. He met her that day when that computer programmer was frying brains & that night he said hi to her when he came to see Olivia & he called her once about a song just to make Olivia jealous cause he asked her the next day if it bothered her. If you're going to comment about what has & hasn't happened in the show so far..get your facts straight first!

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