While investigating a series of bank robberies, Olivia, Walter and Peter are shocked to find one of the suspects inexplicably trapped inside a vault wall as if it solidified around him. Walter realizes that the high-tech thieves have figured out a way to defy the law of physics and that, much to his dismay, the crooks are after something of his. As the ongoing investigation unfolds and the mystery deepens, the perilous situation climaxes when a member of the trio is ambushed.
Wow this was some episode. We still didn't see where John Scott's memory will go..will he save Olivia? Looks like there are many rogue FBI agents assisting the organization. I wonder still how Walter and William Bell are connected. He knew those time devices were his.
ReplyDeleteInteresting comments on Walter's lab notes. He said the equations mean nothing st this point..
ReplyDeleteAnyone catch the Observer on the Philadelphia bank's security monitor at the beginning of the show?
ReplyDeleteWow, this episode was great! We got a little Philladelphia Experiment here! I was so engaged that I forgot to look for Observer. TPTB gave us a juicy time-machine/materializer getup as well, which looked good.
ReplyDeleteThis episdoe was a nice way to leave us hanging for the hiatus. Gotta go look at the screencaps now. :-D
So is Peter a clone of the son that died from the "bird flu" like disease?
ReplyDeleteI thought that too Anon..Is Peter someone else or a clone?
ReplyDeleteI think he's a clone...but anyway - I do think that Nina Sharp DOES know what happened to Olivia - in fact there's a post under Screencaps - the Observer for this episode that talks about it - and I think that person is right - she will want to get John Scott's memories from Olivia - I think ole boy in German prison and Sharp are in bed together on this one...
ReplyDeleteYes, that is probably so. I didn't think Nina Sharpe's response was very sincere to Broyle's accusations. I had a feeling the story would go back to Germany. Also in Walter's lab notes he mentions being in Germany in 1985. That is exactly 23 years...just when he stashed away those devices in the banks.
ReplyDeleteI just looked at the recap Nina says" We are in a race aganist time with certain indidviduals" I dunno know. She could be OK.
ReplyDeleteGreat comments everyone.
ReplyDeleteIt kind of looked to me like Nina was telling the truth about Dunham's abduction. BUT, that's not to say that when Nina gets the chance to get her hands on her brain, that she won't do something just as dirty to get the info that she wants. And I suspect that she'll be pretty ticked off that she didn't snag Dunham before the other guys did.
hahaha, wow. that was some episode..
ReplyDeletei live in westford, mass; this episode is hilarioussss. forever remembered as our one pop culture reference ever.
I agree with Cacom, I think Nina was pissed someone got to Olivia first. I did think it was VERY unlikely that Peter didn't know/couldn't recognise the Fibonacci Sequence. My 10 yr old knows all about it, he learned it in school 6 months ago.
ReplyDeleteLOL Ihop. :-)
ReplyDeleteYou know, you're right Pher. Pete's supposed to be such a natural genius, and well-studied even though Walter says he didn't finish college, for him to not know that is odd.
Peter has some angry stiff in his background. Nina is just an opportunistic person...possible shady ethics.
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone think Walter Bishop is William Bell? WB=WB
ReplyDeleteHey all- first time posting here-
ReplyDeleteI agree that something is up with Peter, there is more than meets the eye there- although I don't know what for sure, but I bet there will be a big reveal one day about him.
iHop- it is cool to see your town listed on the show- I live in AZ now, but grew up in Edison, NJ- so I went crazy when they mentioned it this week. Didn't look like my old house though...hehe
I enjoyed seeing the Observer in all the easter eggs. I had seen him in a few epis, but didn't realize he was in all of them.
Yes I do Drew especially since this last episode where Walter had invented those time machines. I think Walter has many ideas in his head and some are at MD,which have gotten away from MD somehow, but it appears that Walter has knowledge of most of them. He's solved them all so far.
ReplyDeleteRemember too that Walter was shown to be schizo in the mental institution.
ReplyDeletei still don't understand why little hill though.
ReplyDeletehad he just told them about it before because that's where he wanted to get picked up or like what gives?
I don't know - I just don't trust that Nina Sharp one bit...if she's not in on it - then I think ole German dude probably knows that Nina wants Olivia --
ReplyDeleteBut there isn't anything sincere about her ..... I also don't trust that good ole FBI guy.
Why I can't remember anyone's name is beyond me! I should really pay attention.
Here's the thing what made Walter flip out and what is his connection to MD? Nina Sharp? Hmmm..not trustable. Also what happened in Germany in 1985 when Walter was there?
ReplyDeleteThanks Dennis! I will remember everyone's name eventually - it only took me two seasons of Lost to remember everyone there!
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I don't think peter is a clone. My guess is he is a homunculus or he really was dead and was brought back to life by human transmutation.
ReplyDeleteJust finished reading everyone's posts. A few things:
ReplyDeletePeter as clone - nobody brought up the three men laying down in hospital bed/environmnent chambers at the very end of an early episode. Could those be Peter's clones? If anything bad ever happened to Peter, Walter could simply switch memories?
Broyles as bad guy - I suspect Broyes is bad because he calls Loebe, the agent with the parasite/agent in Safe, a CLOSE FRIEND. He allowed wife into Walter's Lab so she could hear the "little hill" answer. Broyles couldn't give himself away and had to remain above suspicion.
Nina vs. Jones - It seems as though MD is not totally behind the Pattern. It seems from Olivia's tank experiences and other connections to John Scott, that JS, the Latino guy, the butterfly guy, Loebe and others, are all working together to steal secrets and technologies from MD in order to sell them on the black market. Or maybe they're working for some organization other than DHS or FBI.
Walter Bishop = William Bell - I don't quite believe this. From the Pilot episode, Nina talks about William Bell saving her arm and giving her a job. So, sounds like two different people.
No, no, no. I like KRoof's comments a LOT, but Peter can't be a clone. Those three guys in the environment chambers were copies of that soldier who kept stealing pituitary glands to live. They were more versions of him. Anyways, I can tell you all that, as a psychologist, quite a few of the psychological stuff they propose happening on this show can actually be done...the technology for some are just crude-ish. Btw, what do you guys think Jones wants with Olivia? Just her memories seems a little simplistic....I think MD will 'rescue' her for their own purposes before Jones gets anything out of her...
ReplyDeleteOh, I forgot, about the genesis of Peter:
ReplyDeleteI always thought that Peter was probably engineered by Walter as a fetus. You know how Walter keeps referring to Peter as if he knows him well, and Peter keeps saying how Walter couldn't possibly know him and getting angry? Well....if Walter personally sequenced Peter to be who he is, or who Walter planned on Peter being rather..... I'll bet at some point that Walter has to use some part of Peter that he engineered (some implanted memory, some brain component, something put in the blood to protect him, whatever you want) and Peter is all outraged by his engineered-ness and says no, and Walter has to decide between the moral dilemma of acting like a human being instead of a scientist towards his son (in which case Peter does it voluntarily to save someone (prob. Olivia), but it drives a further wedge between him and Walter), or fixing whatever problem arose(in which case Walter injects Peter unconscious and does it anyways, and his character moves from straddling the fence to the creepy scientist side of the field-not likely). Good plot-line? I know. I am just that nerdy....
I agree I think Walter may have eniginered something in Peter. He keeps stumbling over things he remembers about Peter. He starts to say them then stops when he sees Peter's face. I think Broyles and Nina Sharp have some kind of relationship regarding the pattern. Broyles knows more than he shows. Not sure if he is part of the Loebe thing..maybe in the past..who knows?
ReplyDeleteI think peter is walter. so I guess i side with the other clone theorist, with the exception that i dont think that peter is a replica of walter's son but a replica of walter. If Walter cloned his sick son the new peter would have the same genetic defect/disease walters first son had.
ReplyDeleteI seriously doubt that Peter is a clone. First of all, the technology to make that happen wouldn't have available 30+ years ago when Peter was born.
ReplyDeleteWe do know that Walter experimented on Peter as a child, and Peter doesn't remember. I'm sure it goes way beyond simple shock therapy. I wouldn't be surprised if Walter has done the synaptic transfer on him, which could explain how he would know his son so well.
I think it might be wise to pay attention to Walter's Lab Notes. There seems to be alot of things hidden in Walter-speak that might be useful.
ReplyDeleteLike as the origin of Peter, he mentioned in one Lab note,(I belive the one concerning "In which we meet Dr Jones") that the second time created life "The primative meathods, heaving and perspiring, nine months of effort for the carrier..". This sounds like a description of natural birth. That doesn't rule out a clone of Peter further on, but we know there was an original, natural, Peter at one point in time.
Also, in the most recent Lab notes, there was a potential memnotic phrase hidden in Walter speak.
"cannot build phallic puzzles in the lab"
C,B,P,P,I,L
We can apply this to the cities he had hidden devices in..
Cleaveland
Philidelphia
Providince
I?
Little Hill?
I think that we should pay closer attention to the notes.
I've always thought that Walter's notes are the place to go for info.
ReplyDeleteJust a note of caution Walter is into random thought.Some info is relevant and some hard to tell if it's useful. I thought that the 1985 thing was kind of unimportant until this last episode when he said he hid the time machines 23 years ago. Something happened that year. He is a puzzle.
Sorry, new to this site, but been watching the show. What are Walter's lab notes? Like screen caps of stuff on the actual show, or are they external media stuff?
ReplyDeleteWalter's Lab notes are put out by Fox the day after the episode airs. They are almost like bonus material about the episode.
ReplyDeleteSee: http://www.fringepedia.net/index.php?title=Walter%27s_Lab_Notes
I love the homage to X-Files whenever Olivia calls Peter and says "Peter, it's me". Great memories of "Mulder, it's me". The intricacies of this show are mind-boggling. From a data visualization perspective the overall dichotomy of good and evil has bleded into gray matter. Tech-organic constructs abound and are strung together with delicate precision.
ReplyDeleteBroyles & Nina Sharp
ReplyDeleteWe already know they have some sort of relation beyond normal bureaucratic cooperation. Are we forgetting the scene at the end of 103 where Broyles gives Nina the John Scott disk? That didn't seem like normal protocol to me.
Yeah the notes are loaded with stuff. Good point Anon...the motives are starting to blur on good and evil. Just like real folks. That's why it's so fun,entertainment chases realty, realty becomes entertainment.
ReplyDeletewhats with Walter seeing another Walter when he went back to the mental institute?..... to ask his friend about the place the kidnapping lady took him
ReplyDeleteI think that event/time period in Walter's Life is a significant turning point for him as well as for the info he discovered.Not sure what that was. The only date he mentioned was 1985 when he was in Germany.
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