tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post8097283057945490452..comments2024-01-10T09:46:59.423-05:00Comments on Fringe Television - Fan Site for the FOX TV Series Fringe: Fringe Observiews 4.10 Forced PerspectiveFringehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01716374413979844944noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-29541957443529675812012-02-02T22:10:14.944-05:002012-02-02T22:10:14.944-05:00Again I had the pleasure of reading and enjoy, the...Again I had the pleasure of reading and enjoy, their thoughts, conclusions and comparisons, refer to Fringe, this, his skilled work: Observiews on, 4.10, Forced Perspective, cortexiphan. I liked it too, their similarities and comparisons between episodes of dialogues, such as the backpack caught the attention of Olivia, among others. Very good. I've noticed that writers somehow are using facts, dialogues and even the same composition of the image, taken with the camera, almost even the actors' costumes, which were used in the first season of Fringe. Everything seems a repetition, with different focus, not equal, but rather similar. One of the examples I mentioned, that meeting was now between Olivia and Broyles, that room, where were the pictures of Observers. This scene is very similar to what happened in the first season if I remember correctly, was in the episode "Pilot", and the dialogues were very similar, too. Right now I was on the website of Fox/Fringe, and had something on Twitter, who was speaking at Peter, as a superhero. also, in past seasons, when Peter was rescued from the red universe, he unleashed a series of killings of shapeshifters 1.0 without further explanation, and with a knowledge of their location, impressive. the work of Peter, was more or less like a superhero, with attitudes fulminating against the shapeshifters 1.0. In this new context of the universes of Fringe, Peter again, is in some way, and attitudes of a superhero, solving all problems and putting you to unravel. Both Peter and Olivia, I think it's something more important and decisive role in Fringe, than we can suppose. <br /><br />Is the story repeating itself again.<br /><br /> If not, see:<br /> - The Pattern, now seems to be Mr. Jones, and Nina Sharp as boss;<br /> - The shapeshifters 2.0, there are far more superhuman, more infiltrators, and more lethal;<br /> - Observers are also there, but I think there should be an internal conflict among themselves (guess);<br /> - The Broyles, looks the same as before, but now he has something with this "new" Pattern, I think;<br /> In synthesis, cortexiphan, I think, one way or another, even different, "the time he turned back," so that his consistent work serves to help us find the similarities, this new context, with what happened in beginning of Fringe.Zepphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01697038527530043362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-26987254794280937222012-02-01T10:18:31.963-05:002012-02-01T10:18:31.963-05:00@ Fringeobsessed.
I agree. I guess I just didn'...@ Fringeobsessed.<br />I agree. I guess I just didn't know how to put it into words.<br />I also thought that when Emily said that, Olivia looked at Walter.cortexifanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08362203941002650803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-35608199149946515332012-02-01T09:48:05.455-05:002012-02-01T09:48:05.455-05:00cortexifan,
Great job with this. But to you and De...cortexifan,<br />Great job with this. But to you and Dennis, I think there is more to the dialogue below than what you 2 mentioned:<br />PETER: “I don't understand, Emily. Why do you warn them if they can't do anything about it?”<br />EMILY: “I don't know. I guess if people knew, maybe they could say "I love you" to someone. Or just do one good thing.”<br /><br />If you have this episode recorded, go rewatch this scene. Peter asks the question. As Emily answers him, the camera pans to Walter who's looking quite effected by Emily's words, and then the camera focuses on Liv. Both of them are thinking about her reply. And yes, that is why Liv tells Nina she loves her like a mother later on, but what about Peter's and Walter's reaction to Emily's reply?<br /><br />Unfortunately we do not get to see Peter's face while Emily answers his question, but someone on Facebook last night pointed out he's probably thinking about how he didn't reply when Liv told him she loved him in 3.21, "The Last Sam Weiss."<br />There's no way to know that though because the camera doesn't show us.<br /><br />Walter's face is quite expressive as Emily answers Peter. And I think this is MAJOR foreshadowing for our Walter in the future of the series(think also of 'Brown Betty").<br />I believe Walter will tell Peter he loves him in the future before he sacrificies himself for the greater good(like he tried to in "Unleashed"), but of course that is just my opinion.<br /><br />I barely think of this episode as a stand-alone, because as you pointed out there are so many tie-ins to past episodes, and because of what I see as foreshadowing.fringeobsessedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02818528329131089151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-7234071461707537292012-01-31T21:19:43.370-05:002012-01-31T21:19:43.370-05:00@ Count Screwloose.
Sorry, but I don't know wh...@ Count Screwloose.<br />Sorry, but I don't know what that is.cortexifanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08362203941002650803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-64618100620454636332012-01-31T18:00:40.371-05:002012-01-31T18:00:40.371-05:00I'm a little surprised that no one has yet men...I'm a little surprised that no one has yet mentioned the resemblance of this episode's Emily to Emily the Strange. Seems very intentional.Count Screwloosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00198518952654618266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-83724341310777230312012-01-31T16:38:07.394-05:002012-01-31T16:38:07.394-05:00Although Peter was not central to the episode, thr...Although Peter was not central to the episode, three of his scenes emphasize his "special power", that of being the only non Observer to have conscious knowledge and experience from both timelines: 1) his coaching Walter to hypnotize Emily, 2) his idea to jam the bomb's radio trigger frequency (2.03 "Fracture"), and 3) his obvious take on Olivia lying to him when they talked about the Observers. He knows his other "family" members better than they do. I'm never playing poker with this dude. It was nice to see him take part in solving a case as a full team member again.milostanfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12601982445850157037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-2245566924044054852012-01-31T16:36:59.084-05:002012-01-31T16:36:59.084-05:00I like to compare Emily with Tyler in 2.07 "O...I like to compare Emily with Tyler in 2.07 "Of Human Action". They are two sides of the "teenager with special powers" coin. Tyler's power was expansive ("Let's see how fast this piece of junk can go"), gleaned partly from fighter pilot tech, and he was too immature to handle it. Emily's power was inflicted upon her by an as yet unknown outside agency, and she suffered passively under it, having to repress herself. Tyler had no real family, and even the family he tried to reconstruct (going after his "mom") was an illusion as Tyler was really an MD lab rat. Emily had a real, supportive family and that was emphasized in the story. She, like Roy in 1.03 "The Ghost Network", at least wanted to make something good of her predicament. I think the differences in family backgrounds informed the motivations and choices of both characters, and since Fringe is a "family" show (the family of Peter, Walter, and Olivia) this is important enough to note.<br /><br />Kudos to Alexis Raich for playing Emily, a difficult part, so well. I think it is more difficult to play a repressed character than an expansive one. The repressed character becomes a sort of prison that the actor must be careful not to break out of, in this role at least, since Emily was being repressed by fate itself. She managed to convey the burden she was under, yet remained "just a kid" at the same time. Nice balancing act. And a big shoutout to all the parents of "special needs" children who have had to deal with the question "Why did God make me like this?".milostanfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12601982445850157037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-1228587248502738772012-01-31T16:35:09.076-05:002012-01-31T16:35:09.076-05:00"Forced Perspective" is good standalone ..."Forced Perspective" is good standalone episode that I think may be more related to the larger story than we now realize. I think after some future episode we may look back on this one differently.<br /><br />I'm guessing that "some future events ripple(ing) backwards" through time is the result of technology, not something that just happened, and has some connection to the larger story, perhaps an attempt, or the blowback of an attempt, to move or communicate through time from the future. And that MD's involvement in Emily's life (and fate) is more than tangential.milostanfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12601982445850157037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-6928254044839619092012-01-31T12:48:40.795-05:002012-01-31T12:48:40.795-05:00While i agree that the guest stars are normally ex...While i agree that the guest stars are normally excellent on fringe, i thought these guest stars were really poor :LJMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04716757577676708023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-84141490691872464762012-01-31T12:47:32.561-05:002012-01-31T12:47:32.561-05:00Great review i love your style and comparative rat...Great review i love your style and comparative rational with pictures is outstanding bravo!Kevin the fringe fanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08610199912587222669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-60918578384410703422012-01-31T12:29:04.663-05:002012-01-31T12:29:04.663-05:00@ Dennis
probably not. And if she does will they s...@ Dennis<br />probably not. And if she does will they say it back to her? Because so far no one has in the same instance.cortexifanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08362203941002650803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-62581135890105769012012-01-31T12:27:14.909-05:002012-01-31T12:27:14.909-05:00Random thing I noticed: Emily's map on the wal...Random thing I noticed: Emily's map on the wall has the Soviet Union on it.Ezhikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12695533220071431614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-30730372099496600182012-01-31T12:23:48.926-05:002012-01-31T12:23:48.926-05:00I didn't put it together until you mentioned i...I didn't put it together until you mentioned it, but Emily's comment is definitely why Olivia told Nina that she loved her.<br /><br />The question is... will she tell anyone else that she loves them?Dennishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05071751415790930551noreply@blogger.com