tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post6086828972164770215..comments2024-01-10T09:46:59.423-05:00Comments on Fringe Television - Fan Site for the FOX TV Series Fringe: Fringe Rewatch 404: Subject 9Fringehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01716374413979844944noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-54779591283535704082011-12-18T18:34:21.836-05:002011-12-18T18:34:21.836-05:00Ha. Make no mistake. I'm not a frustrated Frin...Ha. Make no mistake. I'm not a frustrated Fringe fan... just hadn't pieced the new storyline together as well as you (probably) have. I love the pacing of the show and I love what the writers have done throughout the seasons. I rarely predict what will happen next and am glad to have found a forum in which I can discuss it with other people who care. Looking forward to the next episode especially.CuriousGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02370699579368187204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-38498914986226092862011-12-18T14:45:02.211-05:002011-12-18T14:45:02.211-05:00You're very welcome, I think what I figured ou...You're very welcome, I think what I figured out is pretty solid for being what happened, and I hate seeing fellow fringe fans frustrated over not having all the clues together into at least one plausible theory of events. (I'm not going to say it's totally correct until we have the writers tell us in one of those videos they do.) Hope it helps.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-21145299436723260512011-12-17T16:44:32.574-05:002011-12-17T16:44:32.574-05:00Very tight, g33k! Thanks for taking the time.Very tight, g33k! Thanks for taking the time.CuriousGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02370699579368187204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-32094301906286071792011-12-17T14:19:34.775-05:002011-12-17T14:19:34.775-05:00First, in the scene where Astrid and Olivia are co...First, in the scene where Astrid and Olivia are combing through the files, you can see the 'Subject 13' test footage from the betamax playing in the background. Walter suspected that she had crossed over and seen the zeppelin before those tests started, so without any Peter in her life before those tests it is very likely the same events happened and she did cross over when her step father hit her, but never admitted it to anyone. Subsequent to this episode, they use the same footage in the "previously on fringe" portion in the beginning of the episode, so we know for sure the Subject 13 tests happened.<br /><br />@CuriousGirl Second, your questions: "If Peter never existed as an adult in the Amberverse, why would Olivia, Broyles, and Walter cross over to the Redverse?" <br />The team never crossed over to the Redverse willingly, because they didn't have any reason to.<br /><br />"Why would the Redverse abduct Blue Olivia..."<br />In 'One Night In October' Walter and Astrid explain to Lincoln that Olivia was kidnapped to the other side and Fauxlivia infiltrated the team. She still needed to steal a piece of the machine that they did not have on their side in order to turn the machine on, so Walternate sent her over. It is likely he sent her over in place of himself using the same door Walternate used in 'The man from the other side' from season 2, because he would have had no need to come over himself and get Peter back, so Fauxlivia probably used the door instead. They took Olivia over and kept her in solitary because they needed to 1) balance out the mass transfer, because otherwise the Fringe team would have been investigating similar mass transfer accidents that we saw in Jacksonville and 2) Fauxlivia could make sure her cover wasn't blown if Olivia was in the other universe.<br /><br />Third, Walternate didn't inject Fauxlivia's memories into Olivia, because she seems to be a worse shot then Lincoln (Olivia killed a shapeshifter in 5 shots, Lincoln in 3 in NHNT) and because Peter wasn't around to bring her back from the tulip field, she ran away and never crossed over to speak to Walternate during 'Subject 13', so Walternate wouldn't have known about her being experimented on as a child and being able to cross over.<br /><br />I'm sure people may debate the above on whether its true on not, but to me its pretty self explanatory based on stuff they've showed us (the vid from subject 13 in subject 9, the mass balance problem between universes, Olivia ran away in this uni, her bad shooting, previous mention of Fauxlivia's infiltration, and I believe the machine piece she stole)<br /><br />Anyone else got a different take on it?g33knoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-83146301649301800202011-12-16T17:23:13.948-05:002011-12-16T17:23:13.948-05:00I love these recaps! I would never see the meta pa...I love these recaps! I would never see the meta pattern of writers using both the second and fourth episodes in consistent ways across seasons, so thanks again for more insight.<br /><br />Aimee, you hit on one of the biggest questions I had regarding the new time line... If Peter never existed as an adult in the Amberverse, why would Olivia, Broyles, and Walter cross over to the Redverse? Why would the Redverse abduct Blue Olivia... more state secrets, sure, but then why would they reach a truce so soon after such a trangression? Can't wait to see how that plays out.<br /><br />Also can't wait for episode 8. Thankful for the recaps until then.CuriousGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02370699579368187204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-16796409419579399382011-12-16T16:49:06.764-05:002011-12-16T16:49:06.764-05:0045,
your reactions are very entertaining, but at ...45,<br /><br />your reactions are very entertaining, but at the same time very true.<br /><br />i agree with every comment you posted.<br /><br />its NOT going to be about peter in this episode.<br /><br />the writers are just showing josh in this promos so they can attrack the lost josh fans.<br />who had given up after the so called peter season.<br /><br />this episode (and this season ) is going to be about olivia , then lincoln and then the shapeshifters. and before the commercial break they are going to show some peter scenes (lol) to keep us idiots happy.<br /><br /><br />did you hear they going to make a astrid episode?<br /><br />yeah, the writers are like: oke , we develloped the peter karakter enough , we have written for him more than enough and we spend too much time on him. so lets give other castmembers the spotlights.<br /><br />NOT!!<br /><br />note to the writers: first begin with writing for peter and than look for other karakters!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-87458767689114161942011-12-16T09:42:48.103-05:002011-12-16T09:42:48.103-05:00Nicely done, Aimee.
Like all episodes of Fringe a ...Nicely done, Aimee.<br />Like all episodes of Fringe a fan really needs to watch this one at least twice to get the full gist of it. Like you, I was antsy during the first viewing, trying to get them to move on with things. But during a second viewing today, I just sat back and took it all in.<br /><br />There's a lot of time spent here on the Walter/Olivia relationship, which is quite different than in the old timeline, of course due to Peter's absence.<br /><br />One thing I was hoping you'd comment on was Walter's posturing in the hotel room right after he trashed it. <br />He glances at his two lacerated and bloodied palms, and stands there holding them in a position that should remind detail-oriented Fringies of Roy's drawing of ATF-agent Evelina Mendoza in episode 103, "The Ghost Network." She is standing in the picture with her bloody palms in a position eerily similar to Walter's.<br /> http://fringefiles.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=14&pid=18554#top_display_media<br />Is this significant? Time will tell.<br /><br />And yes, who IS Peter Bishop? In the old timeline, a man with a tortured background who mostly worked for the good, but who had a dark side. In this new timeline? We barely know yet, but on January 13th, 2012, I believe we will learn more.fringeobsessedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02818528329131089151noreply@blogger.com