tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post5925060170328034341..comments2024-01-10T09:46:59.423-05:00Comments on Fringe Television - Fan Site for the FOX TV Series Fringe: Fringe 5.10 Review: Anomaly XB-6783746Fringehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01716374413979844944noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-77409212421421121202013-01-19T13:45:22.934-05:002013-01-19T13:45:22.934-05:00back to the future?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F...back to the future?<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Triangle_diagram.svgAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12220569529278531988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-24244230943409817482013-01-19T13:44:38.105-05:002013-01-19T13:44:38.105-05:00http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Triangle_diagram...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Triangle_diagram.svgAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12220569529278531988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-90709670449870474422013-01-12T10:30:40.255-05:002013-01-12T10:30:40.255-05:00So, I have commented before about the possibility ...So, I have commented before about the possibility of getting back in time to catch the team! Apparently is possible, but they are too afraid of the consequences that this might have. I felt trilled when they addressed this issue in 5.11 (The boy must live), it was like they have read what was going on my mind. DocH, spoke of the possibility of two different sets of observers... after 5.11 I think we can establish there is only one set of observers, who are very cautious of how they interfere with the past. I wish we had time to understand and see how their invasion changed "their" future! It would be amazing... but with 2 eps left, I guess we will not have that. Crazy idea: a spinoff with September/Donald and Windmark, showing observer history, how September story developed through time and how Windmark deals with his new found emotions.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07554337014979631426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-65943874468945616542013-01-12T10:29:04.869-05:002013-01-12T10:29:04.869-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07554337014979631426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-12570416270144980102013-01-02T13:14:29.153-05:002013-01-02T13:14:29.153-05:00Old Darth,
finally had a chance to read your revie...Old Darth,<br />finally had a chance to read your review. Thank you for your honest opinion. <br />I was wondering too what Nina was looking at in her office and thought back to 4.22 Brave New World Part 2 when Bell showed Walter his universe. Bell then proceeded to turn off that device. <br />http://fringefiles.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=273&pid=91352#top_display_media<br />It isn't exactly the same but that's what I thought of. cortexifanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08362203941002650803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-64517133420792599982013-01-02T11:34:55.412-05:002013-01-02T11:34:55.412-05:00Scully8, I can agree on the lab front but not on t...Scully8, I can agree on the lab front but not on this particular episode. Average TV shows definitely treat their villains as idiots but I don't consider Fringe an average show so my expectations are higher.Old Darthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00924628019601531425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-24412170303434794792013-01-01T20:14:22.725-05:002013-01-01T20:14:22.725-05:00Bart Burnette, I believe your theories are right o...Bart Burnette, I believe your theories are right on...I agree that September does sympathize with Walter because of they both having sons they don't want to lose...it makes sense. And then he hides Michael in the pocket universe for safety, then took the tech out and became human. Good observationsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-24787332680991449972013-01-01T10:24:12.060-05:002013-01-01T10:24:12.060-05:00pMaestro, I totally agree with your statement. The...pMaestro, I totally agree with your statement. There are a ton of references to past seasons bringing the story full circle. I'm really enjoying this season and can't wait to re-watch the entire series from beginning to end once this season concludes. <br /><br />In terms of all of the contrivences, I'm okay with it. The team needs a base for their operation and the lab makes perfect sense. Who cares if in reality our team would have been found out a long time ago. According to Wyman, he is aware that their location not being found out is a bit of a stretch and is okay with it. <br /><br />OldDarth--in terms of the Observers not returning and such . . . it is what it is . . . a television show that requires the villians to be idoits. :)scully8https://www.blogger.com/profile/09097005879550324143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-31396343702810674842012-12-30T18:51:22.817-05:002012-12-30T18:51:22.817-05:00@ 3cents Actually, the Observer 'threat' h...@ 3cents Actually, the Observer 'threat' has been present throughout the entire show's run, especially with 2.3's Fracture where Colonel Raymond Gordon tells Broyles that "... they are here. collecting data, making observations. That's what's in the briefcase. They've been planning for war". This last season actually has so many links to what happened in the past four seasons that many of the thought processes of the team and their actions would actually have very significance to the television viewer if he/she didn't have the knowledge and experience of the past seasons, both universes AND the altered timeline. I think this final season is understated and fantastic, introspective, and a giant love-letter to everything that the show is and stands for. Ultimately, any show is all about the characters and that is what this season is delivering in spades.pMaestrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04301948933817406349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-16754635633585887782012-12-28T08:14:39.358-05:002012-12-28T08:14:39.358-05:00Hi Darth, Your review really echo my sentiments, n...Hi Darth, Your review really echo my sentiments, not only for this episode but for the entire season. I have a feeling that the writers were not expecting to get a season 5 and effectively finished their story telling my end of season 4. This season has really no link with anything that happened in the past 4 seasons (we really are forced to stretch our imaginations to make the necessary connections). The entire season looks like a forced attempt, an after thought (after they were told that they have an extra season to fill) and unfortunately chose "Observers" as the villains since the parallel universe theme has ended. It is completely inconsistent with how they were portrayed earlier. That apart, even if we run with this fairly illogical story, the entire story telling had no real emotional core. There is no real bonding and the actors seem bored, especially Olivia (not sure what her role is, now that she has saved the universe). This whole treasure hunt theme against high odds has not gelled, unlike the machine building in season 2. All in all, this is Lost all over again, whose last season is not as disappointing, come to think of it.3centshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02709281628205824305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-61865233858841830662012-12-27T20:47:44.898-05:002012-12-27T20:47:44.898-05:0010 episodes of this 5th season have passed. The Et...10 episodes of this 5th season have passed. The Etta died, Simon died, also died Nina, that the Donald is (or was) the September, which has also disappeared since found the skeleton of Sam Weiss, the Broyles simply disappeared from the scene, gone, the Peter, as a matter of personal human principles, he withdrew his head implant that gave him super powers to fight, and, beside it, the thug's Windmark and his minions are great, most dominating every episode, each increasingly strengthened ... We have as few as 3 more episodes until the end ... I think Olivia, Peter, Walter and Astrid, are low "ammunition" to attack with some success, the Baldies ... I see only one possibility, kind of a "light at the end of the tunnel" ... the boy Michael. Yes, I think it all boils down, closes this fragile boy. I also see this kid Michael, as it was a symbol of everything so far occurred, the great significance for the end of Fringe!Zepphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01697038527530043362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-59913936442661023912012-12-27T20:42:03.533-05:002012-12-27T20:42:03.533-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Zepphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01697038527530043362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-61683397830755899002012-12-27T18:47:13.878-05:002012-12-27T18:47:13.878-05:00@ Bart Burnett
Wow. In short, Michael is Septembe...@ Bart Burnett<br /><br />Wow. In short, Michael is September's son (they share the "anomalous" empathy gene), and September became Donald in 2015 ("what happened to him was unexpected"). I like it. If September did all this, and Michael goes into the (or "a") machine to save the world, it would perfectly parallel Walter and Peter's journey. Sign me up! I think you nailed it.milostanfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12601982445850157037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-39933517640820447662012-12-26T18:21:15.499-05:002012-12-26T18:21:15.499-05:00I loved this episode because of everything it give...I loved this episode because of everything it gives us. I thought Nina's death was far more emotional than Etta's and meant more to the progress of the plot because of the way it resonated with Michael, and helped Walter. I have a few guesses from here...<br /><br />Observers are one of our many possible futures.<br />September witnesses Walter discover the cure for Peter as a child but instead lead to him not being able to save him.<br />September witnesses Walter's pain and suffering as he will not let his child from another Universe die twice for the same reason. September see's that Walter would risk the world's very existence just to save Peter. He helps save Peter when they fell through the ice of Raden Lake. Why? He insists the boy is important and must live, which he was to foreshadow Peter's use in the machine to heal the two universe's Walter broke. However, this act also resonated with September because I theorize that Michael is his son. Since he was an "anomaly" he was supposed to be destroyed, but to save his son he sends him where the other Observers can't find him (the past). It explains the looks that Michael and September give each other from the car and street in season 1. It explains why September has always cooperated with Walter. He sympathizes with him. They both lost their child and did what they had to to ensure their survival. Now, I believe September removed his tech and slowly changed back into a regular human and took on the name Donald (what we see in the flashes). From their he was able to look after his child in the pocket universe until they left. I believe September is likely captive of the Observers or dead. To fix the problems he created with his interference with time, September or his son will go into the Machine like Peter did and use his abilities to either erase Observers or create some new timeline where Observers don't exist.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08803099314200098636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-78195415620836486902012-12-26T18:18:10.233-05:002012-12-26T18:18:10.233-05:00DocH,
Thanks for the explanation!
As much as I lo...DocH,<br /><br />Thanks for the explanation!<br />As much as I love Fringe. I still find quite hard to believe that if they have the ability to travel in time... they wouldn't send anyone with that ability or the technology they use to do so with the "first group" that came to "our time". Seems a little to reckless/forgetful to such intelligent/logical creatures. <br /><br />Anyways, if I'm talking nonsense forgive me. I will rewatch everything and do my research for the things I find odd once the entire series ends.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07554337014979631426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-68138756165556695542012-12-26T14:22:28.679-05:002012-12-26T14:22:28.679-05:00Not wanting to limit my own paradigm.
September a...Not wanting to limit my own paradigm.<br /><br />September and friends could be from the amended 2609 AD in the alternate universe, while<br /><br />Windmark and company could be the 2609 by-product of what played-out in this universe.<br /><br />(or vice versa)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-7318440151274921722012-12-26T14:12:39.223-05:002012-12-26T14:12:39.223-05:00André...
You are a victim of narrow logic and yo...André... <br /><br />You are a victim of narrow logic and your own false paradigm. The simple answer is that these Observers, the Windmark variety, are not capable of bouncing around in time. Only September and his variety of Observer can bounce around in time travel mode. Think about it - why doesn't Windmark go home to 2609 AD everynight? Why are they sending supply shipments from 2609 back through dangerous wormholes? Because Windy's type don't time travel. They can make trans-dimensional portals for the themselves here (and now) only. They are primitive and were only capable of surviving the one time time-journey back to 2015-ish Earth, or whenver they were sent. <br /><br />September is likely from Windmark's distant future, like Windmark is from ours. <br /><br />And we are from Old Darth's - [8^)>{--|<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-561182136443382322012-12-26T10:07:03.268-05:002012-12-26T10:07:03.268-05:00What I haven't understood yet is why the obser...What I haven't understood yet is why the observers haven't transported back in time and arrested the team. They escaped many time from the observers, so why not get back in time, let's say 10 minutes before they escape and arrest them? Windmark knew that the team had used a sublimation device on Bell's lab. Why not get back in time and keep getting back until they pinpoint the time the team was there? This is for me the most grave mistake that they have made since the start of this season. If you can get back in time, you just need to know that someone have been at a place, from that on its impossible for this person to escape, cause you can check that point eternally.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07554337014979631426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-41042054281668736132012-12-26T10:04:17.433-05:002012-12-26T10:04:17.433-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07554337014979631426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-53571897620617527322012-12-25T16:35:36.899-05:002012-12-25T16:35:36.899-05:00Well Bro since it is my review, the pickiness is y...Well Bro since it is my review, the pickiness is your reaction. <br /><br />For me, it is perfectly reasonable.<br /><br />Merry XMas! B-)<br />Old Darthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00924628019601531425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-16276650507105878402012-12-25T13:42:46.768-05:002012-12-25T13:42:46.768-05:00Also disagree about the Nina business. For one, M...Also disagree about the Nina business. For one, Michael showed her many things.. maybe the future, maybe the past, but she may have learned that time will be reset, so she was free to go out with a bang and a final insult to Windmark.<br /><br />As far as Windmark, he was freaked out about the anomaly being on the loose. His first reaction is to try an get more info, draw outcomes, etc to predict the team's next steps. They use their skills, not the human approach of stakeouts. Made perfect sense and within characters' behavioral patterns. They can "transport" anywhere at the drop of a hat, so why linger? <br /><br />Way too picky on this review. SheHateMeBrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03249374728381931939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-51443509457341419402012-12-25T10:43:27.491-05:002012-12-25T10:43:27.491-05:00@Old Darth
I don't think that would've wor...@Old Darth<br />I don't think that would've worked, they saw that nina died, they wouldn't try to find out what windy did with her.<br />besides, the reason why windy went back to the place where etta died was because he found out that they loved her and so he figured that they would go back but he didn't really know how much they actually cared about nina, all he knew was, that she was a traitor.Surun Tunnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06390587069397216303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-45588597661273790982012-12-25T10:19:59.821-05:002012-12-25T10:19:59.821-05:00Assumptions: of the two, one.
Or in the end, with...Assumptions: of the two, one.<br /><br />Or in the end, with three episodes to end Fringe, writers or writer, maintains the same relentless "writing of sameness," killing or disappearing, one or two of the main characters, with an "ocean" of tears, and everything else ...<br /><br />or<br /><br /> These same writers or writer along with executive producer Wyman, surprise us, brilliantly, not "kill" anyone on our side at the end of Fringe, and they make a final impact unimaginable, with all the main characters alive?<br /><br /><br />For me, the writers and the producer have to observe that (first) is the grand finale of the Fringe, (second) is the closure of a great saga of high-level (third) and is the way or the chance that their work will be in archives of the history of TV shows, they do not forget, that! But it may also be that they are not worried about it, so ...Zepphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01697038527530043362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-64083564270971302612012-12-25T08:46:15.278-05:002012-12-25T08:46:15.278-05:00Fring3fri3nd - the difference this time they have ...Fring3fri3nd - the difference this time they have Nina's body as a lure to bring the Fringe team back to check what happened to her.Old Darthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00924628019601531425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-9871778171145865132012-12-25T00:38:04.473-05:002012-12-25T00:38:04.473-05:00Pulled outa you-know-where prediction. There will ...Pulled outa you-know-where prediction. There will be one more sacrifice, but it won't be Walter. It will be September.milostanfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12601982445850157037noreply@blogger.com