tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post3367329958129227800..comments2024-01-10T09:46:59.423-05:00Comments on Fringe Television - Fan Site for the FOX TV Series Fringe: Fringe Review/Analysis 5 x 05: What We Now Know… and Don’tFringehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01716374413979844944noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-29061942094633967482012-11-08T20:23:37.786-05:002012-11-08T20:23:37.786-05:00(One more) Well, my guess (crazy) is that - dissid...(One more) Well, my guess (crazy) is that - dissident - September is a mortal enemy of Windmark alongside those Baldies, invaders, in this year 2036. September, along with other Observers with "name of month of year," saved Peter from the icy lake (with Walter), accompanied their performances in the Fringe team, controlling and guiding their attitudes, and "he did not exist" , to prepare him for this moment of now, ie it can to defeat these evil Baldies of 2036 (!)Zepphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01697038527530043362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-13245510031722074412012-11-08T18:44:15.254-05:002012-11-08T18:44:15.254-05:00My guess is that September is from Windmark's ...My guess is that September is from Windmark's future. Not from 2609. September and the month crew, are from beyond the time of the invasion forces. The mission of September isn't just to keep us on the straight and narrow, as far as pivotal events in our history, September may be tasked with monitoring and steering the invading Baldies (his ancestors) too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-56420905878992823822012-11-07T19:04:11.551-05:002012-11-07T19:04:11.551-05:00My guess is that September is Peter from the futur...My guess is that September is Peter from the future.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01092141066136563979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-91359203829095189702012-11-07T00:29:54.821-05:002012-11-07T00:29:54.821-05:00Once again great review Aimee. Superb episode with...Once again great review Aimee. Superb episode with outstanding performances from all the actors.pandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07573633563430801770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-23860568352657625302012-11-06T17:28:31.994-05:002012-11-06T17:28:31.994-05:00Hey Aimee, thanks for another wonderful review! Wh...Hey Aimee, thanks for another wonderful review! What an absolutely phenomenal episode, my favorite of this season so far. I mentioned Peter being the original Observer at my blog because of the episode title "An Origin Story." Perhaps he's simply a NEW kind of Observer? I do wonder what became of the original team of Observers we were familiar with (monthly code names... September, December etc) and if this new Peter is somehow connected to them. That could explain September's obsession with the Bishops and why the boy was always important to them. I guess we will find out soon enough right? Anyway, as always thanks for sharing your thoughts/theories with us. <br /><br />-HankAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00783926333436240322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-91684053376415998002012-11-06T16:58:42.794-05:002012-11-06T16:58:42.794-05:00The episode was really good and everyone did a gre...The episode was really good and everyone did a great job but I do worry about how Walter and Olivia will react to peters "observer" development. I worry that the moment will mirror "marionette" and have Olivia bashing Peter while Peter is silent and doesn't say a word. It is clear that Olivia does not seem to care about peters pain at all. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-6363159645033033712012-11-05T18:11:29.416-05:002012-11-05T18:11:29.416-05:00Thanks Aimeé Long, for his share these interesting...Thanks Aimeé Long, for his share these interesting, clear and insightful thoughts here with us. I watching this 5th season, often the images of the episodes of past seasons, now come into my head and I start thinking, remembering, once in a while, that sentence of September: "The boy is important”. And now seeing Peter, about to be become a kind of Human-Observer, with that power to eliminate them, also come a question: Would not September, along with other observers with names of months of the year, a dissident group of conspirators, antagonists, this group of Badservers that there is? If perhaps those Observers who have seen the episodes of previous seasons, were members of a group of observers’ dissidents, then this whole story of Fringe really is or should be another, is not it? But that's just the idea of a possibility that occurred to me.<br /><br />If I start to analyze more carefully, I soon come the questions. What is now the largest Fringe team motivation to fight now? Was it a kind of revenge for the death of Etta? It would be to liquidate the Badservers? Or is it...? I honestly do not know. What I do know is that this year, 2036, the entire planet into chaos on chaos. The entire planet is invaded by these beings of the future, there is the human world, now there is only "another world", with another atmosphere, other beings, other habits, all in open social change for the good of those invaders. It is like a sort of "Planet of the Apes", as opposed to instead! The human being on this planet Fringe in 2036 is almost something rare, hunted and in hiding. Anyway, the other planet is not ours anymore. Definitely, these are years that nobody would want to remember them.<br /><br />Even now, we have the possibility of having a Peter superhuman, or that Walter can organize your video tapes, or even that Olivia starts to cross universes, I think that all this is now occurring in these dangerous current universes, is leading the final scenes of Fringe, for a large action, or twist of a "Palimpsest", or to great effect like "White Tulip", or even a return in time for the entire team of the Fringe, I think. Why such things are now, globally speaking, I do not see how this could end well for our side. Also in this context that there is, I feel that is missing a vital character to help "arrange" it all: the Observer September!<br />Zepphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01697038527530043362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-77558744002460405732012-11-05T17:59:56.078-05:002012-11-05T17:59:56.078-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Zepphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01697038527530043362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-80051972271003177782012-11-05T16:01:22.265-05:002012-11-05T16:01:22.265-05:00@ Aimee
Re: your comment on the last grafitti &qu...@ Aimee<br /><br />Re: your comment on the last grafitti "Peter Lake" pic. Are you thinking this is a hint for Etta's return, like when Peter returned by coming up out of Reiden Lake? Or am I just seeing what I want to see? ;)milostanfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12601982445850157037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-53494130939356990662012-11-05T14:33:25.573-05:002012-11-05T14:33:25.573-05:00THANK YOU(!) for the catch with "Arlette'...THANK YOU(!) for the catch with "Arlette's Place" and the "White Tulip" callback. Didn't see that. Peck's motivation in "White Tulip" was to recover his lost love by tampering with the underlying structure of reality and thus fate itself. Walter went down a similar path at Reiden Lake, and now his son is as well. You can add "And Those We've Left Behind" and Raymond Green's attempt to do the same. There are even similarities in the effects, the "circular bubble burns" in three of these events.<br /><br />I love how Fringe is embracing the ambiguity of our desire to control and steer what we perceive to be our "fate". That is a very dangerous and also very human thing to do. There is no "THIS is right and THAT is wrong" here. And by mapping Peter's very volatile emotions onto this idea, they have brilliantly given raw emotional life to this question.<br /><br />I am very ambivalent about the path Peter has taken. Part of me wants to embrace it with him, sharing his anger. And part of me fears the unforeseen consequences, the blowback, which will inevitably happen. Remember Walter's journey. Remember "The Firefly".<br /><br />I think the Invaders are due for some blowback as well, and Peter will be a part of that. They don't understand what our emotions are and how they bind us as well as tear us apart. They don't understand what they have lost, and that will doom their effort to eradicate the Natives. Manifest Destiny my ass!<br /><br />Also loved your thoughts about how we tend to see what we want to see in complex phenomena. Thanks for the peek inside Schrodinger's Box.<br />milostanfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12601982445850157037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-69044845827338908482012-11-05T13:44:53.060-05:002012-11-05T13:44:53.060-05:00Excellent review, as it's a superb episode. It...Excellent review, as it's a superb episode. It's funny the parallelism between that ant colony and us fringe fandom. But so accurate .... :). We don't even know what we don't know. But we're waiting to.<br />I'd like that the plot will fully go on with Peter's dark path. It's been a bold step, one worth to be carried to the very last extent. Not that I want anything irreparable happens to Peter; but is such an strong development to just be lost in a soft run away.....Roneohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02914722825902377359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-24856253671991001922012-11-05T08:38:24.509-05:002012-11-05T08:38:24.509-05:00Beautiful... yet so sad..Beautiful... yet so sad..Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15376602138281203488noreply@blogger.com