tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post254449831964321521..comments2024-01-10T09:46:59.423-05:00Comments on Fringe Television - Fan Site for the FOX TV Series Fringe: Summer of Fringe Rewatch: #221 "Northwest Passage"Fringehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01716374413979844944noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-266886398462422862011-08-30T05:31:59.462-04:002011-08-30T05:31:59.462-04:00I know, to me it always felt as if a scene with Pe...I know, to me it always felt as if a scene with Peter & Walternate had gone missing at the beginning of Over There I. Actually if feels like they wrote it and then couldn't fit it in somewhere, it's really too bad. If this scene had been made, I think there would have been a great chance of mirroring it to the one with Walternate at the lake house in TDWD. Now wouldn't that have been great? Peter had far too little on-screen interaction with Walternate in Over There, especially given the potential of this relationship that was used so well in the relationship between Walter & Peter.witharmsakimbonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-25539256981849471252011-08-29T12:14:44.162-04:002011-08-29T12:14:44.162-04:00@witharmsakimbo, I love your description of Peter ...@witharmsakimbo, I love your description of Peter trying to rest. Right on the dot. If Newton hadn't shown up, Peter may have went off with Olivia and Walter back to Boston. <br /><br />My biggest disappointment is the fact that we did not see Peter talk to Walternate later about leaving. Why bother having such an episode if Peter was not shown either possibly leaving or still very angry at Walter and Olivia...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12317988702848090808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-64350752339949403032011-08-29T06:23:30.492-04:002011-08-29T06:23:30.492-04:00BTW, I never got why some people dislike Northwest...BTW, I never got why some people dislike Northwest Passage, I love the Pacific Northwest setting, it's a great representation for Peter's situation and Mathis is such a compelling character. The case might not be the best case ever, but the way it relates to Peter makes it all the more poignant. Peter's brokenness really breaks my heart, as does Walter's. Joshua Jackson really stands out in this one. Northwest Passage is definitely among my favorite episodes.witharmsakimbonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-82505685507399961112011-08-29T06:12:57.477-04:002011-08-29T06:12:57.477-04:00Thank you, Aimee, for the review, it's really ...Thank you, Aimee, for the review, it's really interesting to see these episodes in the light of season 3 developments. I, too, think that S4 Walter will be much more like NWP Walter, although probably without the insight into what it must be like for Astrid and Olivia to see him like that. <br />One thing I always liked about Fringe is that, contrary to many other sci-fi productions, hope is recurring motif. "Find the crack" goes very well with the motif, as does Mathis' story about the loss of her family. When Peter lies down on the bed it is both with sorrow and hope for the future. As a viewer my impression was that, at least now Peter will get some rest. Which is why Walternate's entry was so effective in that last shot. <br />I really like how Peter questions his sanity. I like to think that it factored into his decision to come back to Walter in Over There, because he had made that experience that made him feel compassion for Walter's state of mind. So it's interesting that you mention the quilt Peter must be feeling (maybe also about abandoning Walter and Olivia in NWP) because that, I think, is ultimately another identification point with Walter.<br />Thanks again for the review and the interesting insights and new connections. I really enjoy reading the rewatch posts this summer :)witharmsakimbonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-30767953185021063152011-08-29T00:22:35.396-04:002011-08-29T00:22:35.396-04:00"i meant for awards and things john noble is ..."i meant for awards and things john noble is always listed as "supporting" and jackson is up for "main", but i see ur point"<br /><br />JM, John Noble is a main actor, but he submits himself to awards as supporting, because he has more chances to be nominated in that category. Joshua Jackson also submitted himself as supporting in the latest Emmy Awards.trentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-52064108164567906652011-08-28T21:37:22.553-04:002011-08-28T21:37:22.553-04:00@45
...the tension in your voice indicates that yo...@45<br />...the tension in your voice indicates that you’re carrying a heavy psychic burden. Tortured by the depths of some --<br /><br />Why don't you just stop watching then and stop bothering those who try to be positive and give constructive criticism. Why are you lashing out at Anna and John as well and the rest of us who love this show and everyone in it. Josh himself said it's not about the characters, but about the show as a whole. <br /><br />I challenge you to take an episode and write a review. If not, then leave us alone.<br /><br />And just in case you're not coming back to this one, I'm gonna post it on Over There Part 1 as well.cortexifannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-15785853191386650222011-08-28T20:03:55.630-04:002011-08-28T20:03:55.630-04:00I say and I will repeat it again, NOBODY ever pick...I say and I will repeat it again, NOBODY ever picks on John and Anna for anything they do but Josh gets all the hate, all the whiners, all the people blaming him for anna torv's "supposed" "non success", complaining that he didn't acknowledge anna torv, complaining that he isn't a PO fan and now people are complaining that he is the "main actor". <br /><br />Josh please, quit this show and go for a show that has people who CARE about you.45https://www.blogger.com/profile/12615022666718086936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-66981449331513034402011-08-28T19:43:20.440-04:002011-08-28T19:43:20.440-04:00BTW, if you don't hate Josh then why are you p...BTW, if you don't hate Josh then why are you picking on him for? Why the heck should it matter who the damn "main actor" is? Should we stop caring about Josh because he isn't the damn lead?45https://www.blogger.com/profile/12615022666718086936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-58140889857305741302011-08-28T18:51:23.330-04:002011-08-28T18:51:23.330-04:00You know what, Josh should just quit this damn sho...You know what, Josh should just quit this damn show. People hate him and only care about John and anna torv. Thanks so much JM for pissing me off.45https://www.blogger.com/profile/12615022666718086936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-30023763637941620072011-08-28T15:12:07.310-04:002011-08-28T15:12:07.310-04:00i meant for awards and things john noble is always...i meant for awards and things john noble is always listed as "supporting" and jackson is up for "main", but i see ur point<br />JMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-79624460006321535802011-08-28T13:27:07.476-04:002011-08-28T13:27:07.476-04:00JM : I think you need to direct your question to t...JM : I think you need to direct your question to the Fringe producers, because none of us know contract details for the actors.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12317988702848090808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-52702814644951290952011-08-28T13:19:02.962-04:002011-08-28T13:19:02.962-04:00Plus Mathis was into UFO and the paranormal, like ...Plus Mathis was into UFO and the paranormal, like Fox Mulder. Her skeptical partner was like Scully to her.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12317988702848090808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-25186732234147016892011-08-28T13:14:39.565-04:002011-08-28T13:14:39.565-04:00X-Files was heavily influenced by Twin Peaks. I ev...X-Files was heavily influenced by Twin Peaks. I even mentioned the pie as a homage to Twin Peaks. However, it <i>personally</i> reminded me of the X-Files because that is the show I watched first, and for nine seasons ;)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12317988702848090808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-17948412695236411332011-08-27T16:05:42.698-04:002011-08-27T16:05:42.698-04:00I know this dosent have much to do with the post, ...I know this dosent have much to do with the post, but i was wondering what peoples thoughts are on joshua jackson being listed as "main actor" on fringe next to anna torv as "main actress", when in my opinion the "main actor" is clearly john noble, this isnt about actor/character hate, i just dont see how a "main actor" can be in half the episodes,and now atleast the first 3 episodes of next season and still be listed as the main actor, in terms of sheer screentime (which jacksons by the look of it is being reduced even more at least at the moment) john noble is without doubt the main actor on the show and should be put there, and i will repeat incase "45" comments, this is not jackson hate, im just saying and want feedback.<br />JMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-47919345894481527682011-08-27T15:59:46.157-04:002011-08-27T15:59:46.157-04:00I myself never really understood the massive hate ...I myself never really understood the massive hate leveled at this episode on other fringe sites, i liked it, maybe its because the standards of fringe are so high, that even a good episode by industry standards is seen as bad on fringe? Some of the plot is bad, and there is not a lot of character development for peter, its ashame because by the looks of things this is the most peter centric episode (and by that i mean where he actually does stuff) fringe will probably ever have (bar reciprocity, which was quickly discounted) <br />JMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-54627381898045573102011-08-27T13:37:33.010-04:002011-08-27T13:37:33.010-04:00I agree, it felt more like Twin Peaks. It's on...I agree, it felt more like Twin Peaks. It's one of the many reasons this is one of my favorite episodes.<br /><br />I loved the Sheriff Mathis character and I hope they bring her back for one episode. Her dynamic with Peter was very interesting. She seemed to be very attracted to him, but not in a sexual way. I find their scenes together strangely fascinating.trentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-12933792229723227372011-08-27T12:57:29.021-04:002011-08-27T12:57:29.021-04:00X-Files? I always thought this episode felt more ...X-Files? I always thought this episode felt more like Twin Peaks...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-23026046904673399502011-08-27T03:15:41.691-04:002011-08-27T03:15:41.691-04:00"Then he proceeded to use one of his many ski...<i>"Then he proceeded to use one of his many skills to remove identifying information from them."</i><br /><br />I don't think he removed informations! He made the bullets more efficient/deadly by modifying them.Sunny_Yhttp://sunny-y.tumblr.com/noreply@blogger.com