tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post2272861956972830008..comments2024-01-10T09:46:59.423-05:00Comments on Fringe Television - Fan Site for the FOX TV Series Fringe: Episode Review: A New Day in the Old TownFringehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01716374413979844944noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-55618995170502858862009-09-22T01:02:40.074-04:002009-09-22T01:02:40.074-04:00The only thing I can thing of to make this episode...The only thing I can thing of to make this episode better would be when the shape changer looks at the typewriter in the mirror the second time... the Verizon Wireless guy leans forward and looks back at him thru the mirror and says - "Can you hear me now?"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-54755641794399916672009-09-21T16:35:15.518-04:002009-09-21T16:35:15.518-04:00Hi Dennis.
Thank you for commenting on my points....Hi Dennis.<br /><br />Thank you for commenting on my points. Love this site (just found it). Yup, this isn't Heroes!!! LOL.<br /><br />About point 2. Didn't Olivia's sister have a thing for Peter in the season 1 universe? If so, then the sister's comment about Olivia liking Peter just seems odd. My gut tells me that this has got to be another universe - hope I'm not experiencing a Belly ache ;)<br /><br />Thanks for letting me know that the writers are limiting season 2 to only 2 universes. However, "there's more than one of everything"...Judge Suzyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07056135633465845982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-998203132004755282009-09-21T15:02:33.541-04:002009-09-21T15:02:33.541-04:001. Just because we didn't know about Nina and ...1. Just because we didn't know about Nina and Philip doesn't mean they didn't have a relationship. It would explain why he trusts Nina so much he would give her the chip from "The Ghost Network".<br /><br />2. Who said Olivia "always" had a thing for Peter? At the hospital, Rachel only said <i>"You know she liked you, Peter. Did you know that?"</i>. <br /><br />3. I don't read it that way at all. When Peter was at the beach house, he was looking for Walter, he was not there to reminisce. I think the only reason he didn't wipe the dust from the face of his mom, is that they haven't cast an actor for that role yet.<br /><br />I've mentioned this in other posts, but Jeff Pinkner has stated many times that we will only deal with two alternate realities on Fringe. Any more would be too confusing.<br /><br />Personally, I don't see the multiple versions of our characters happening, at least not in the way you describe it. Maybe we'll see Walter-nate, or Alt-livia, but not as replacements. This isn't Heroes :)Dennishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05071751415790930551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-67218115930636448892009-09-21T14:02:37.216-04:002009-09-21T14:02:37.216-04:00We have got to be in an alt-universe in the season...We have got to be in an alt-universe in the season 2 preimier.<br /><br />Some clues being:<br />1. Nina and Philip having a relationship.<br />2. Olivia supposedly always having a thing for Peter -- but Olivia had a thing for her dead partner.<br />3. The season 2 Peter remembered his mother's Greek saying fondly, but season 1 Peter did not even bother to brush the dust off the photo of his mom.<br /><br />I believe viewers are going to be subject to a multi-verse this season. This means our main characters can die, but also can be replaced with a different version of themselves. Hope the writers don't use this device too often because it would become predictable.<br /><br />On another note, I'm excited to see what version of the multi-verse exists on the other side if the selectric 251/mirror. Is it the original universe from season 1, or yet another alternative multi-verse?<br /><br />I'm always intriged when biblical references are introduced into the mythology of the show. I can't wait to see where this goes...Judge Suzyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07056135633465845982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-20640547290304997912009-09-21T10:18:41.796-04:002009-09-21T10:18:41.796-04:00the one thing I didn't like was that there wer...the one thing I didn't like was that there were so many commercials, if there was some way to get back to the "Fringe will return 60" or "30 seconds." thing, that would be greatAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-82185244287317032462009-09-21T02:19:03.102-04:002009-09-21T02:19:03.102-04:00ohh ok i guess thts y Peter doesnt remember some o...ohh ok i guess thts y Peter doesnt remember some of the things tht his dad does when he was young like the custard n the coin etcreesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01171872566665129360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-16377343961747637162009-09-21T01:05:03.185-04:002009-09-21T01:05:03.185-04:00Reese,
The implication is that the real Peter die...Reese,<br /><br />The implication is that the real Peter died when he was a young boy, and that Walter crossed over to the alternate reality and took the Peter from there.Dennishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05071751415790930551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-16978702529919234302009-09-21T00:02:15.563-04:002009-09-21T00:02:15.563-04:00why was there a grave stone with peter bishops nam...why was there a grave stone with peter bishops name on it? wht does the pops really know?reesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01171872566665129360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-76689530303201353972009-09-20T03:31:04.869-04:002009-09-20T03:31:04.869-04:00OK, loved the ep. THIS is why I love Fringe.
Wonde...OK, loved the ep. THIS is why I love Fringe.<br />Wondering why: <br />1. Walter called her "Olive" - how much does he remember of her as a child?<br />2. Who gave the new agent the database password<br />3.When and how Peter is going to find out that he is actually from the alternate universe and how that all affected the way he ended up living his life<br />4. WHO taught Olivia that Greek saying? Why? <br />5.Nina seems SO contradictory- she seems to be working against Fringe finding out about M.D. but then wants to help them...? Will we ever know that whole story??<br />6. Was Olivia's sister ever experimented on? If not, WHY not? If so... !!?? :o)<br />7. Why no more mention of what Olivia can do with her mind? (ref. that ep when she turned the lights off mentally) That's GOT to change your world a bit, hmm??! LOL<br /><br />Anyone have any insights or opinions about these things??Brookehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14602855966256934592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-59925115550266802652009-09-20T03:23:13.379-04:002009-09-20T03:23:13.379-04:00The twist at the end was utterly impossible. The ...The twist at the end was utterly impossible. The shapeshifter leaves the victim at the scene. we saw how he stashed Charlie, but where did the nurse come from? <br /><br />Are we to believe in the time it took the others to arrive at the furnace after the gunshots, 30 seconds at most, that the shifter killed charlie, took his identity with the machine, stashed his body AND pulled out the nurses body from a hiding place? Weak.<br /><br />And what about the clothes? The machine can shift the body but it isn't going to fabricate duplicate clothing. The shifter would have had to strip the nurse for her clothes and strip Charlie - obviously a naked Charlie being dumped. He couldn't changed clothes and redressed the nurse in 30 seconds.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03591821110131681130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-81493836440367817152009-09-19T23:47:37.444-04:002009-09-19T23:47:37.444-04:00Foe me the Nina/Phillip thing was so strange... Ph...Foe me the Nina/Phillip thing was so strange... Phillip seemed very uncomfortable...it didn't strike me as familiar between them. Almost creepy in a way..Debbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03486676846535210863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-85756829080392685302009-09-19T22:47:13.240-04:002009-09-19T22:47:13.240-04:00...oh, yeah, that too: Charlie was alone with a sh......oh, yeah, that too: Charlie was alone with a shape-shifting soldier (for a very short period of time, which is also annoying), and no one even THOGUHT to ask if they could look inside his mouth, just to check if he was really Charlie???crimsoncat05https://www.blogger.com/profile/00857197135858767320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-14277137008342374402009-09-19T22:44:05.535-04:002009-09-19T22:44:05.535-04:00I agree about the "Olivia is dying" thin...I agree about the "Olivia is dying" thing... also, if she was brain-dead (the Dr. said no brain activity, didn't he??), then she would have needed to be on life support (breathing tubes, ventilator, etc). BUT, that would have interfered with her Greek revelation... THAT totally bothered me.crimsoncat05https://www.blogger.com/profile/00857197135858767320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-50153815660204396352009-09-19T19:26:05.501-04:002009-09-19T19:26:05.501-04:00Aside from the things mentioned above, I thought t...Aside from the things mentioned above, I thought the Charlie twist was not believeable either. So they figure out how the shapeshifter operates (the three pronged thing), and they aren't going to at least question that Charlie fell prey to the same thing? All it would have taken would have been one look in the mouth of the dead body of the nurse, and bam, there are your three prongs. I don't believe that given how sharp Olivia and the others normally are, they wouldn't notice this. <br /><br />Overall, I still thought it was great!JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15726049792941726266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-63976101887567398702009-09-19T15:44:37.704-04:002009-09-19T15:44:37.704-04:00I definitely agree that the premiere was too slugg...I definitely agree that the premiere was too sluggish, but at the end of the night it didn't matter. <i>A New Day in the Old Town</i> did exactly what a season premiere should do. It reminded us why we loved the show last year and got us excited about the new episodes ahead. Oh and watching Olivia explode through that windshield was <b>bad ass</b>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-68059033539358368722009-09-19T13:44:22.994-04:002009-09-19T13:44:22.994-04:00Regarding Olivia as I was watching it I was wonder...Regarding Olivia as I was watching it I was wondering if it would turn out that was an alt-version of her or we'd end up with an alt-version of her afterward. <br /><br />As for the Charlie situation I'm actually hoping that gets resolved quickly... it's one of those plots that bugs the hell out of me. Probably more than it should but I get annoyed rather quickly that no one can figure out that something is going on when a character is replaced. Don't know that I could buy a whole season of no one figuring it out especially if the shape-shifter doesn't have Charlie's memories. Of course there's nothing yet to suggest that he doesn't. <br /><br />I did a review on my blog after the episode aired: <br /><br />http://multigenrefan.com/2009/09/fringe-2x01-a-new-day-in-the-old-town-spoilers/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-4553890914700205352009-09-19T11:25:58.444-04:002009-09-19T11:25:58.444-04:00I have to say, I love J.J. and crew, and this epis...I have to say, I love J.J. and crew, and this episode is exactly why. The references to X-Files (Season 2 of the X-Files starts with the X-Files being shut down for lack of evidence); the massive character development of nearly everyone on the show; and the mind-bending special effects that they manage to pull off on network television. The writing was on point, the plot twists were strong, and the serial nature of this season opener makes me ecstatic for the rest of this series! Maybe we knew Olivia wouldn't die, but knowing Abrams, it all has its relevance in the mythology of the story (we just don't know about it yet).Jack Storeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05228814690084060015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-7810352244331862952009-09-19T11:21:58.201-04:002009-09-19T11:21:58.201-04:00Yeah the Nina/Philip I find suspicious....Yeah the Nina/Philip I find suspicious....tallonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00930177765068510821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-55851057704699256942009-09-19T11:21:28.882-04:002009-09-19T11:21:28.882-04:00I'm with you on Markle. I'm like WTF? Do...I'm with you on Markle. I'm like WTF? Don't get the trade from interesting, quirky character to a generic PYT. Has to be something the demographic-marketing heads said they must do. Plot-by-numbers. Blech.<br /><br />IAA on the Olivia "death." It absolutely made the show drag first half.Lux Leahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05948083856503213484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-89455860319734734922009-09-19T10:20:59.578-04:002009-09-19T10:20:59.578-04:00I thought that Nina Sharp had been shot 1st season...I thought that Nina Sharp had been shot 1st season? Was that not the case??The Wizardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02837796961461320213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-70034568172325303712009-09-19T10:01:00.550-04:002009-09-19T10:01:00.550-04:00The typewriter scene was intriguing, but I though ...The typewriter scene was intriguing, but I though the best scene was Peter and Rachel at the hospital. In their darkest minutes Rachel tells Peter that Olivia liked him-that he must know that.<br /><br />And Peter Bishop, the genius with the 190IQ and con man extraordinaire, is speechless with emotion. So bittersweet.fringeobsessedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02818528329131089151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-54244796752309093572009-09-19T01:02:25.469-04:002009-09-19T01:02:25.469-04:00I thought the episode was fantastic! But I concur...I thought the episode was fantastic! But I concur that there no suspense in Olivia's impending death. Obviously she was going to be fine. <br /><br />I also found the Charlie twist utterly predictable. But I can attribute that to the fact that we were aware that there was going to be a twist with his character come the end of the episode. Still, when a shape shifting device was revealed, I just knew Charlie would fall victim to it.<br /><br />I don't mind the new member to the team, however, why add someone knew if there is already someone being ignored. Astrid, anyone? We know <i>nothing</i> about her.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-788645746622659643.post-51602739993867555462009-09-19T00:47:04.170-04:002009-09-19T00:47:04.170-04:00I agree about the Olivia being "dead" th...I agree about the Olivia being "dead" thing. There's no way she would die or even go on hiatus for a few episodes, so the whole time, I was wondering when she would wake up. Full review of the episode on my blog.<br /><br /><a href="http://th3tvobsessed.blogspot.com/2009/09/review-fringe-season-2-episode-1-s02e01.html" rel="nofollow">http://th3tvobsessed.blogspot.com/2009/09/review-fringe-season-2-episode-1-s02e01.html</a>TV Obsessedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09117251732141325156noreply@blogger.com